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DATE 2017-06-09
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] : Debian derivative that
On 06/09/2017 02:17 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 07:29:09PM +0000, Mancini, Sabin (DFS) wrote:
>> Awhile back you guys ( Rick, Ruben ) explained to me the negative of system ( Thanks ! )
>>
>> I came across this Debian derivative that omits systemd. Ranked #53 on Distrowatch ... Disclaimer: I have not tested it. Desktop not the prettiest though.
>>
>> >From OSDisc.com:
>>
>> Devuan 1.0.0 Desktop
>> Project Website - Buy OSDisc Media
>>
>> Devuan GNU+Linux is a Linux distribution forked from Debian in 2015. The project's primary goal is to provide a variant of Debian without the complexities and dependencies of systemd, an init system and services manager originally developed by Red Hat and later adopted by most other Linux distributions. Devuan's initial beta release was made available in April 2016, together with an upgrade path from Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" and a possibility to switch to Devuan from Debian 8.0 "Jessie".
>
>
>
> We saw that as it developed. For my money, the openrc manjaro is better
>
> Ruben
>
https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro-openrc/

The reason you haven't heard me railing about systemd of late is because
I found a very solid community and distro that is using openrc


https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro-openrc/files/
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/openrc-iso-s/1789

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  2. 2017-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Neural Sciences and Coding
  3. 2017-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blue Colar Coders
  4. 2017-06-03 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (forw) Re: [skeptic] FWD: Fleeing the Paris
  5. 2017-06-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Movie of the Weeks
  6. 2017-06-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] If you see something, say something!
  7. 2017-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Healthcare coding
  8. 2017-06-05 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #306 - Perl 5.26.0 is now available!
  9. 2017-06-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Project for PhP business app
  10. 2017-06-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] github thread with RMS
  11. 2017-06-05 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] TPC::NA::2017: Propose lightning talks
  12. 2017-06-05 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] TPC 2017 schedule has been posted; Registration;
  13. 2017-06-05 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Off-by-one bug in libpng16
  14. 2017-06-06 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  15. 2017-06-06 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Off-by-one bug in
  16. 2017-06-06 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  17. 2017-06-06 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  18. 2017-06-06 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5Bisoc-ny=5D_Call_for_Proposals_?=
  19. 2017-06-06 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] libpng-1.6.30beta04 is
  20. 2017-06-06 andy bang <andy.bang-at-oracle.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] MySQL Enterprise Monitor 3.4.1 has been released
  21. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: tx path circular buffer
  22. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] reactjs
  23. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Midevil Castles, the Maginot Line, and now this
  24. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Foreign Policy Faliure that keeps on giving
  25. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Foreign Policy Faliure that keeps on
  26. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Inevitable Connection Between Artificial
  27. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Survailence Cameras on the cloud
  28. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] AI and surveillance
  29. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ISIS may be using DJI consumer drones for
  30. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snowden
  31. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] US envoy Haley berates UN rights council,
  32. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  33. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  34. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  35. 2017-06-07 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] London lowdown
  36. 2017-06-07 Greg KH <greg-at-kroah.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] tx path circular buffer
  37. 2017-06-07 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  38. 2017-06-07 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  39. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  40. 2017-06-07 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  41. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  42. 2017-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Human rights and the UN
  43. 2017-06-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  44. 2017-06-08 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] CT Scans and 3d printing
  45. 2017-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  46. 2017-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the surveillance state
  47. 2017-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] resume google trick
  48. 2017-06-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Coding Repos
  49. 2017-06-08 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] : Debian derivative that
  50. 2017-06-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] : Debian derivative that
  51. 2017-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] : Debian derivative that
  52. 2017-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  53. 2017-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] : Debian derivative that
  54. 2017-06-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] - Rick M girlfriend in news
  55. 2017-06-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Hangout of NYLXS] : Debian derivative that
  56. 2017-06-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  57. 2017-06-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  58. 2017-06-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  59. 2017-06-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
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  65. 2017-06-10 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  66. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  67. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  68. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  69. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  70. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  71. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  72. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam - tightening the nose on the
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  74. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] PBMs and Rebates... lets not just blame Abbott
  75. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] PBMs and Rebates... lets not just blame Abbott
  76. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] PBMs and Rebates... lets not just blame Abbott
  77. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] PBMs and Rebates... lets not just blame Abbott
  78. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] PBMs and Rebates... lets not just blame Abbott
  79. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbotts lies in its markets
  80. 2017-06-11 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  81. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Time to end the kickbacks and the control
  82. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Time to end the kickbacks and the control
  83. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  84. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam
  85. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Re: mod_perl and cgi-script handler
  86. 2017-06-11 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Language Workshops
  87. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Suplementry IT training
  88. 2017-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] we'll always have Paris
  89. 2017-06-12 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abbott Scam: Wow. Ruben is pretty hot on this
  90. 2017-06-11 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #307 - The Perl Conference is nearly
  91. 2017-06-12 From: "APhA's Pharmacy Today" <PTdaily-at-aphanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?June_12=2C_2017=3A_Opioid_Crisis_Comp?=
  92. 2017-06-12 From: "soledad.esteban" <soledad.esteban-at-icp.cat> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [dinosaur] International course on Scientific
  93. 2017-06-13 From: "Chaim Desser" <career-at-poelgroup.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] position to review
  94. 2017-06-13 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] TPC here and there
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  96. 2017-06-15 From: "Yi Qian, IEEE ICC'18 TPC Chair" <noreply-at-comsoc.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] IEEE ICC'18 Call for Workshop Proposals &
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  98. 2017-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] MTA extortion
  99. 2017-06-19 Mark Halegua <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] MTA extortion
  100. 2017-06-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jobs
  101. 2017-06-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jobs
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  103. 2017-06-23 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  104. 2017-06-23 Mark Wedel <mwedel-at-sonic.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  105. 2017-06-23 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  106. 2017-06-23 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  107. 2017-06-23 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  108. 2017-06-23 Matthew Giassa <matthew-at-giassa.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  109. 2017-06-23 Preston Crow <pc-crossfire06-at-crowcastle.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Crossfire maps idea
  110. 2017-06-23 David Hurst <davidnicholashurst-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  111. 2017-06-23 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  112. 2017-06-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
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  114. 2017-06-23 David Hurst <davidnicholashurst-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  115. 2017-06-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] TED on the threat of AI in the Military
  116. 2017-06-26 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #309 - csvgrep and the recipe for
  117. 2017-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fishing images
  118. 2017-06-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2017:1669-1:
  119. 2017-06-26 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [security-announce] openSUSE-SU-2017:1685-1:
  120. 2017-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fishing images
  121. 2017-06-26 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Release proposal
  122. 2017-06-26 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Expanded World Map (was: Release
  123. 2017-06-26 Rick Tanner <leaf-at-real-time.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] Crossfire maps idea
  124. 2017-06-27 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Score: 9 - 0 ! WIN ! on SCOTUS
  125. 2017-06-23 From: "NYU Langone Careers" <nyumccareers-at-symphonytalent.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Follow up from NYU Langone Medical Center
  126. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] family in need
  127. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] A train derailment
  128. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] A train derailment
  129. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Must See website
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  131. 2017-06-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: [manjaro-general] Manjaro-Architect ISO
  132. 2017-06-29 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] time to put down the phone
  133. 2017-06-29 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lottery programmer rigs systems in 4 states,
  134. 2017-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dinosaur found in Amber

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