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| DATE | 2017-04-02 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Is the internet dead
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On 04/02/2017 03:22 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com):
>
>> This is what I've noticed, the problem starts with the search engines.
>> They have become a fixed game now. Usenet is not covered effectively,
>> nor is access readily available. We are left with Stackover flow.
>> Blogs are not being covered very well.
>
> Indeed, IFAIK, the last surviving blog search engine, Icerocket.com,
> just closed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceRocket
>> (Anyone know of another? I'll be grateful if surprised to hear of
> another.)
>
>> Home Pages and personal libraries are not in search results.
>
> Not true and I can prove it.
That doesn't prove anything I have run complete sentences from websites
through search engines and they fail to show up in the top two pages of
results.
They just don't index pages any longer.
I've spent a lot of time over the last few weeks tracking down
discusions on Parameter Space, and other mathematical applicaitons and
nothing come up but wikipedea, and THERE you can find useful external links.
>> Mailing lists are virtually not listed.
>
> Not entirely true in my experience. For example, Google-search on "HP
> Color LaserJet model 2605DN" (with quotation marks. Even though this is
> a pretty major HP printer, my discussion of it on CABAL's mailing list
> is result #9 on the first page -- weirdly, though, via a third-party
> archiving service called Narchive, not at the native site.
>
> But that points out the probable main reason: Most mailing list URLs
> don't have a lot of other sites hyperlinking to them, hence low Page
> Rank.
You can pop who messaged into the search engines and they just don't
index. The reason is not page counts but marketing money.
This is a big reason why Meetup has pulled in so many people. They get
listed in the search engines.
>
> But yeah, if you are unskilled and lazy in your searching methods, you
> will get mostly certain sorts of search results and not others -- but
> that's the way algorithmic seaching works out.
>
>> Usage for serious information has dropped like a rock.
>
> I do not agree. There's simply a lot more, and quite a lot of it is
> junk, ergo it pays to be smarter about how one looks.
>
> One of SVLUG's most popular talks of recent years was, to my surprise,
> on this exact topic:
>
Oyes - I have such trouble looking up things that were at my finger tips
just 5 years ago. The academeic pages for professors are not given any
priority any longer.
There have been thousands of important conversations on mailing lists,
and usenet that have all but vanished from the indexes.
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>
> rom: Rick Moen
> To: svlug-announce-at-lists.svlug.org
> Subject: SVLUG May 4th meeting: Paul Scott on 'Researching Solutions to
> Linux Problems'
>
>
> WHEN:
>
> Wednesday, May 4th, 2016
> 7pm-9pm
>
>
> MAIN PRESENTATION
>
> TOPIC: Researching Solutions to Linux Problems
>
>
> PRESENTED BY:
> Paul Scott,
> Matrix Information Service
>
> TOPIC SUMMARY:
> Sooner or later, something will break. You'll try to do something that
> should be simple, but turns out otherwise. Maybe you just want to try
> something with your system you've never done before. Or the friend who
> just installed Xubuntu at your urging yells for help with a problem that
> you didn't even know was possible. This talk will discuss where to
> look, when things go wrong in Linux.
>
> Learn effective search strategies, online troubleshooting resources, and
> how to evaluate your search results to find the best information
> quickly. Impress your friends. Impress yourself. Impress your boss.
> Become a Linux guru, with the power of the Internet.
>
> ABOUT THE PRESENTER:
> MORE ABOUT THE SPEAKER: Paul Scott (https://matrixinfoservice.com/) is
> a consultant specializing in technical writing and business information
> research. From his secret lair in Mountain View, he rides the ranges of
> Silicon Valley, helping clients find the information they need and
> manage the information they have.
>
> LOCATION:
>
> Symantec
> VCAFE Facility
> 350 Ellis Street (near E. Middlefield Road)
> Mountain View, CA 94043
>
> Directions on how to get there are listed at:
> http://www.svlug.org/directions/symantec.php
>
> We've tried our very best for these directions to be accurate.
> If you have any improvements to make, please let SVLUG's volunteers
> know! webmaster at svlug.org
>
> POST-MEETING GATHERING:
>
> If you just can't get enough, a smaller group usually goes to a local
> restaurant/diner after the meeting: Frankie, Johnnie & Luigi, Too,
> 939 West El Camino Real between Shoreline and Castro, Mountain View.
>
> We look forward to seeing you there!
>
> ------
>
> You should'a been there. Meanwhile, Paul's slides are downloadable from
> the 'SVLUG News' column on http://www.svlug.org/ .
>
> Bonus link:
>
> 'StackExchange Clones' on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Web/
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
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