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DATE 2017-03-15
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rebecca Bond - Enemy of the People
http://www.adatitleiii.com/2013/02/justice-departments-disability-rights-section-gets-a-new-chief/

https://news.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016-08-30-UC-Berkeley-LOF.pdf


Disability Rights Section - NYA
950 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20530
For hand delivery:
Disability Rights Section
1425 New York Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20005
August 30, 2016
VIA U.S. AND ELECTRONIC MAIL
Chancellor Nicholas B. Dirks
University of California, Berkeley
Office of the Chancellor
200 California Hall, #1500
Berkeley, CA 94720-1500
Mr. Christopher M. Patti
Chief Campus Counsel &
Associate General Counsel
Mr. David Robinson
Associate Campus Counsel
Office of Legal Affairs
200 California Hall, #1500
Berkeley, CA 94720-1500
Re:
The United States’ Findings and Conclusions Based on its Investigation
Under Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act of the University of
California at Berkeley, DJ No. 204-11-309
Dear Chancellor Dirks, Mr. Patti, and Mr. Robinson:
The United States Department of Justice (the Department) investigated the University of
California at Berkeley (UC Berkeley) under title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act of
1990 (ADA), as amended, 42 U.S.C. §§ 12131-12134, and the regulation implementing the
ADA, 28 C.F.R. Part 35. UC Berkeley is a public entity subject to the ADA and its regulation.
42 U.S.C. § 12131(1)(B); 28 C.F.R. § 35.104. The ADA prohibits discrimination against
qualified individuals with disabilities by public entities. The Department is authorized to
investigate compliance with the ADA and issue findings. 42 U.S.C. § 12133;
28 C.F.R. § 35.172. The Department investigated the accessibility of UC Berkeley’s free audio
and video content available to the public on UC Berkeley’s YouTube channel and iTunes U
platform as well as its Massive Open Online Courses (MOOCs) offered on the edX learning
management platform (UC BerkeleyX); collectively, we refer to audio and video content and
MOOCs as “online content.”
The ADA’s nondiscrimination mandate states that no qualified individual with a
disability shall, by reason of such disability, be excluded from participation in or be denied the
benefits of services, programs, or activities of a public entity, or be subjected to discrimination
by a public entity. 42 U.S.C. § 12132; 28 C.F.R. § 35.130(a). The Department is authorized to
file a civil action in federal court if the Attorney General finds a violation of the ADA.
42 U.S.C. § 12133; 28 C.F.R. Part 35, Subpart F.
The Department opened its investigation of UC Berkeley based on a complaint alleging
that UC Berkeley’s free, publically available online content is inaccessible to individuals who are
deaf or hard of hearing. As part of its investigation, the Department spoke with representatives
for the National Association of the Deaf (NAD), the complainant in this matter, as well as Stacy
Nowak and Glenn Lockhart, individuals who are deaf and would like to use UC Berkeley’s
online content if it were accessible, but who cannot fully use it because it is largely inaccessible.
The Department also reviewed UC Berkeley’s policies and practices relating to the provision of
accessible online content to individuals with hearing, vision and manual disabilities and
interviewed UC Berkeley administrators and staff with accessibility expertise. The Department
conducted an extensive review of UC Berkeley’s online content, including 26 MOOCs, 30
lectures on YouTube, and 27 courses on iTunesU. Based on this review, the Department has
determined that significant portions of UC Berkeley’s online content on UC BerkeleyX, its
YouTube channel and its iTunes U platform are not accessible to individuals with hearing, vision
or manual disabilities. The problems identified by the Department – for instance, videos without
captions that are totally inaccessible to people who are deaf or hard of hearing – mean that
individuals with disabilities are denied the full and equal enjoyment of UC Berkeley’s services.
The Department appreciates the cooperation it has received from UC Berkeley during the
investigation, as well as UC Berkeley’s ongoing efforts to improve the accessibility of its online
content. Set forth below are the Department’s findings of fact regarding the accessibility of UC
Berkeley’s online content, the Department’s conclusions of law, and the steps UC Berkeley must
take to comply with the ADA.
a. Aggrieved Individuals
I.
Findings of Fact
Stacy Nowak, a member of NAD, is a professor and PhD student at Gallaudet University
and she is deaf. Ms. Nowak would like to avail herself of what she believes is the increasingly
frequent use of video and audio-based scholarship. Ms. Nowak teaches communication courses
at Galludet, including Introduction to Communication and Nonverbal Communication. She
would like to use numerous online resources related to communication in her classes, including
the UC BerkeleyX course, “Journalism for Social Change,” but cannot because they are
inaccessible. If UC Berkeley’s online content were accessible, she would take courses and
utilize the online content in her lectures.
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Glenn Lockhart, also a member of NAD, is responsible for web, print and video
communications at the Laurent Clerc National Deaf Education Center (the birth-age 12
component of Gallaudet), and he is deaf. He is interested in trends and information in the
communications field for both personal and professional reasons, and would like to take online
classes on this subject. He tried unsuccessfully to access communications courses at UC
Berkeley about a year ago, and he would be interested in such courses now if they were
accessible, particularly the Media Studies 104A course.
b. UC Berkeley’s Online Content
UC Berkeley is one of nine universities within the University of California system and is
based in Berkeley, California. UC Berkeley makes thousands of courses, lectures, and other
campus events available in video and audio formats through its MOOCs and on its YouTube
channel and its iTunesU platform.
i. UC BerkeleyX
Since May 2012, UC Berkeley, in partnership with edX, an online learning platform, has
made MOOCs available online through UC BerkeleyX. MOOCs are courses of study available
online to the public, for free. UC Berkeley shares with edX “the educational missions of
increased access, excellence in instruction, and the support of research to make online learning
1more effective and understand its role in the overall educational mission.” UC Berkeley offers a
wide range of MOOCs on UC BerkeleyX, such as writing (Principles of Written English,
Academic and Business Writing, English Grammar and Essay Writing, and Journalism and
Social Change) and math and science (Introduction to Statistics, Artificial Intelligence,
Electronic Interfaces, Engineering Software as a Service, and Quantum Mechanics and Quantum
Computation). UC BerkeleyX courses are offered on a semester basis or on a self-paced basis
(available at any time).
UC Berkeley’s faculty creates and publishes courses for the public on UC BerkeleyX.
Faculty developing UC BerkeleyX courses can, but are not required to, develop courses in
collaboration with the Berkeley Resource Center for Online Education (BRCOE). BRCOE
follows best practices in design for accessibility and also has a quality assurance process that
includes deploying various accessibility evaluators; remediating layout, page structure,
downloadable or styling accessibility barriers; and obtaining transcripts of all audio and video
files associated with a course.
Prior to July 1, 2015, UC Berkeley also allowed faculty and instructors to design, develop
and publish courses through a self-service model, which did not include support from BRCOE.
Beginning July 1, 2015, UC Berkeley advised the Department that all faculty using the self-
service model will be asked to sign off on a list of accessibility resource reviews prior to
publishing the course. The sign-off statements include:
1
UC BerkeleyX – Free Courses from Berkeley, edX, https://www.edx.org/school/uc-berkeleyx
(last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
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1.I have reviewed and implemented edX’s “Guidelines for Creating Accessible
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Content.”2.All PDFs attached to my course follow the University of California Office of the
President recommendations.3
3.I have reviewed and implemented applicable guidelines into my course from the Web
Accessibility team’s resource “Top 10 Tips for Making your Website Accessible.”4
4.All mp3 and mp4 files in my course have been submitted for transcripts for SubRip
Text (SRT) files.
5.All video and audio in my course have accurate captioning available to users through
the edX HTML5 player.
Between March and April 2015, the Department reviewed the sixteen MOOCs then
available to the public on UC BerkeleyX. None of the courses reviewed were entirely
accessible. For each course reviewed, it would be difficult for an individual with a hearing,
vision, or manual disability to understand the content conveyed to course participants. Examples
of barriers to access found across most course content included the following:
1.Some videos did not have captions. As a result, the audio content in the video was
inaccessible to people with hearing disabilities.
2.Some videos were inaccessible to people with vision disabilities for several reasons.
First, many videos did not provide an alternative way to access images or visual
information (e.g., graphs, charts, animations, or urls on slides), such as audio
description, alternative text, PDF files, or Word documents. Second, videos
containing text sometimes had poor color contrast, which made the text unreadable
for those with low vision. Finally, information was sometimes conveyed using color
alone (for instance, a chart or graph would differentiate information only by color),
which is not accessible to individuals with vision disabilities.
3.Many documents were inaccessible to individuals with vision disabilities who use
screen readers because the document was not formatted properly. For instance,
headings were sometimes neither defined nor arranged in a logical order; page
structure was not always defined, contained empty elements or was incorrectly
2
4.3 Guidelines for Creating Accessible Content, edX, http://edx.readthedocs.org/projects/open-
edx-building-and-running-a-course/en/named-release-birch/getting_started/accessibility.html
(last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
3
Electronic Accessibility, University of California, Office of the President,
http://www.ucop.edu/electronic-accessibility/web-developers/create-accessible-pdfs.html (last
visited Feb. 22, 2016).
4
Making Your Website Accessible, UC Berkeley Web Access,
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu/resources/tips/web-accessibility#accessible-headings (last visited
Feb. 22, 2016).
4
defined; some tables did not have row and column headers defined; math equations
were not always defined in a comprehendible way. Many PDFs either did not have a
tag structure defined or the tag structure was incorrect. Individuals with vision
disabilities who use screen readers would have a difficult time understanding and
navigating the content.
4.Some links were not keyboard accessible and did not indicate whether they were
expandable or collapsible, so individuals with vision disabilities who use screen
readers may not understand the purpose of the links and individuals with manual
disabilities would not be able to use the links.
5.Websites and materials that were integrated into the course material were not fully
accessible.
In January of 2016, the Department reviewed ten new and archived courses available on
UC BerkeleyX. The Department observed some improvement in new and archived courses,
including the addition of closed captions on some content, but in general, the new courses had
most of the previously reported accessibility issues and the archived courses were still
inaccessible. Specifically, the Department found that both new and archived courses are
inaccessible because many have incorrect alternative text, videos without captions, undefined
headings, a lack of color contrast, inaccessible PDFs, and inaccessible keyboard links.
ii. UC Berkeley YouTube and iTunes U
UC Berkeley offers thousands of free audio and video files, including lectures, events,
and other video content on YouTube and on iTunes U. UC Berkeley faculty are invited to
participate in UC Berkeley’s lecture capture program, which involves recording and publishing
select UC Berkeley courses on YouTube or iTunes U. In December 2015, UC Berkeley reported
that its YouTube channel had about 9,600 hours of course video and 4,200 hours of events and
other video content on its YouTube channel. Its iTunes U platform had 10,400 hours of course
video, 800 hours of events video, 18,000 hours of course audio, and 225 hours of events audio.
About 75 percent of the same video content on YouTube is also available on iTunes U. In May
2015, UC Berkeley informed the Department that for “budget reasons,” beginning in the Fall
2015, UC Berkeley would limit access to new online content on YouTube and iTunes U to
enrolled UC Berkeley students taking specific courses.
UC Berkeley’s Educational Technology Services (ETS) unit is available to staff and
faculty to provide closed captioning for UC Berkeley’s online content made available to the
public on YouTube and iTunes U. Upon request, ETS works with the Disabled Students
Program, UC Berkeley faculty, staff or students sponsoring the video to provide transcription
and upload transcripts of audio content. ETS does not field requests from the public about the
accessibility of online content.
The Department found that of the 543 videos it could identify on the YouTube channel,
75 had manually generated closed captions. Of the remainder, many had automatic captioning
generated by YouTube’s speech recognition technology. In March 2015, the Department
selected 30 videos – 15 with manually generated closed captions, 15 without – for review. The
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lectures were selected across a sample of subjects and based on popularity. Examples of barriers
to access on UC Berkeley YouTube channel content included the following:
1.Automatically generated captions were inaccurate and incomplete, making the
content inaccessible to individuals with hearing disabilities.
2.Approximately half the videos did not provide audio description or any other
alternative format for the visual information (graphs, charts, animations, or items on
the chalkboard) contained in the videos. For example, in one video lecture, a
professor pointed to and talked about an image and its structure without describing
the image, making it inaccessible to individuals with vision disabilities.
3.Some visual content presented in the slide presentations had low color contrast. For
example, two video lectures referenced computer code on the screen that had
insufficient color contrast, making it difficult for an individual with low vision to
discern. Another video lecture used different colored lines on a graph, but the colors
could not be differentiated by an individual with low vision.
The Department also reviewed 99 lectures from 27 of the UC Berkeley courses available
on iTunes University. The Department selected a sample of courses across disciplines and based
on course popularity. Examples of barriers to access found on UC Berkeley iTunesU online
content included the following:
1. None of the videos reviewed had closed captions.
2.None of the videos reviewed had audio description or any other alternative format for
the visual information contained in the videos.
c. UC Berkeley’s Policy Addressing Web Accessibility
Since September 2013, UC Berkeley has been subject to the University of California
Office of the President’s Information Technology Accessibility Policy (Accessibility Policy),
requiring that the “University seek[] to deploy information technology that has been designed,
developed, or procured to be accessible to people with disabilities, including those who use
5assistive technologies.” The policy further states:
The University of California is committed to supporting an information technology (IT)
environment that is accessible to all, and in particular to individuals with disabilities. To
this end, the University seeks to deploy information technology that has been designed,
developed, or procured to be accessible to people with disabilities, including those who
use assistive technologies. An accessible IT environment generally enhances usability
for everyone. By supporting IT accessibility, the University helps ensure that as broad a
5
Policy IMT -1300 Information Technology Accessibility, University of California
http://policy.ucop.edu/doc/7000611 (last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
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population as possible is able to access, benefit from, and contribute to its electronic
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programs and services.The Accessibility Policy sets forth technical standards and adopts the Web Content Accessibility
Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 at level AA success criteria.7 The policy places specific requirements
on UC Berkeley to:



Adhere to the UC IT Accessibility Requirements, including the establishment of an IT
Accessibility Program.
Develop, purchase and/or acquire, to the extent feasible, hardware and software products
that are accessible to people with disabilities.
Promote awareness of this policy to all members of the University community,
particularly those in roles that are responsible for creating, selecting, or maintaining
electronic content and applications.
UC Berkeley’s Web Accessibility Services team helps ensure that UC Berkeley websites
and products are accessible to individuals with disabilities, including those who use assistive
technologies such as screen readers. The Web Accessibility Services team is available to meet
and consult with UC Berkeley community members to review and test websites for accessibility
and to provide recommendations for improvement.8
The Accessibility Policy also notes that new development and purchases must receive
higher priority over the retrofit of existing information resources. The Accessibility Policy
provides for some exceptions, noting that conformance to technical standards “may not always
be feasible due to the nature of the content, the purpose of the resource, the lack of accessible
solutions, or an unreasonably high administrative or financial cost necessary to make the
resource accessible.” Nonetheless, the Accessibility Policy notes that difficulties conforming to
technical standards “do not relieve the University programs or services from their IT
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accessibility obligations.”6
Policy IMT -1300 Information Technology Accessibility, University of California,
http://policy.ucop.edu/doc/7000611 (last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
7
Policy IMT -1300 Information Technology Accessibility, Addendum A, University of California
http://policy.ucop.edu/doc/7000611 (last visited Feb. 22, 2016). WCAG 2.0 is based on four
main principles – that individuals with disabilities can (1) perceive, (2) operate, (3) understand,
and (4) interact with the Web – and sets forth 12 Guidelines, each with testable Success Criteria
to ensure that each Guideline is satisfied. WCAG 2.0 identifies three levels of “conformance”
with the Success Criteria: Levels A, AA, and AAA. Level AA, which is the intermediate level
for access, contains criteria that provide comprehensive Web accessibility and are feasible for
Web content developers.
8
Web Accessibility Services, UC Berkeley Web Access,
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu/evaluating/services (last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
9
Policy IMT -1300 Information Technology Accessibility, Addendum A, University of California
http://policy.ucop.edu/doc/7000611, (last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
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II.
Conclusions of Law
Discrimination on the basis of disability by public entities, including universities, is
prohibited by title II of the ADA. Title II mandates that no qualified individual with a disability
shall, by reason of such disability, be excluded from participation in or be denied the benefits of
the services, programs, or activities of a public entity, or be subjected to discrimination by any
such entity. 42 U.S.C. § 12132; 28 C.F.R. § 35.130(a). The title II regulation, set out at 28
C.F.R. pt. 35, reflects and implements the statute’s nondiscrimination mandate. 42 U.S.C.
§ 12134 (directing the attorney general to promulgate regulations).
Under title II, public universities must afford individuals with disabilities an equal
opportunity to participate in or benefit from any aid, benefit, or service provided to others.
See 28 C.F.R. § 35.130(b)(1). UC Berkeley is required to take appropriate steps to ensure that
communications with individuals with disabilities are as effective as communications with
others. 28 C.F.R. § 35.160(a)(1). UC Berkeley is also required to furnish appropriate auxiliary
aids and services where necessary to afford qualified individuals with disabilities an equal
opportunity to participate in, and enjoy the benefits of its services programs, or activities.
28 C.F.R. § 35.160(b)(1). UC Berkeley is not, however, required to take any action that it can
demonstrate would result in a fundamental alteration in the nature of its service, program or
activity or in undue financial and administrative burdens. 28 C.F.R. § 35.164. Finally, UC
Berkeley may not utilize methods of administration that have the effect of defeating or
substantially impairing accomplishment of UC Berkeley’s objectives with respect to individuals
with disabilities. 28 C.F.R. § 35.130(b)(3)(ii).
Based on our findings of accessibility barriers, we conclude that UC Berkeley is in
violation of title II because significant portions of its online content are not provided in an
accessible manner when necessary to ensure effective communication with individuals with
hearing, vision or manual disabilities. In addition, UC Berkeley’s administrative methods have
not ensured that individuals with disabilities have an equal opportunity to use UC Berkeley’s
online content. While the University of California’s Information Technology Accessibility
Policy adopts the WCAG 2.0 AA technical standard, which provides clear parameters for
ensuring online content is accessible to individuals with disabilities, UC Berkeley has not
ensured compliance with its policy. For instance, we appreciate that the Berkeley Resource
Center for Online Education is available to assist faculty in developing accessible courses, but
UC Berkeley does not require faculty to work with the center. Similarly, Berkeley’s Educational
Technology Services is available to provide captions for YouTube and iTunes U content, but
there is no routine practice of doing so. Moreover, while UC Berkeley has taken steps to ask
faculty “to sign off on” the accessibility of UC BerkeleyX courses published through the self-
service model, our review of UC Berkeley’s online content demonstrated that this request has not
resulted in the development of accessible courses. Thus, UC Berkeley has not met the goal of its
own policy requiring it “to seek[] to deploy information technology that has been designed,
developed, or procured to be accessible to people with disabilities.”10,11 Finally, UC Berkeley
10
Policy IMT -1300 Information Technology Accessibility, University of California,
http://policy.ucop.edu/doc/7000611 (last visited Feb. 22, 2016).
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has not established that making its online content accessible would result in a fundamental
alteration or undue administrative and financial burdens. As indicated below, the Department
would prefer to resolve this matter cooperatively.
steps:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
ToIII.
Remedial Measures
remedy the violations discussed above, UC Berkeley must at least take the following
Develop a system to monitor compliance with the technical standards adopted in the
University of California’s Information Technology Accessibility Policy, WCAG 2.0
AA.
Develop and implement procedures to ensure that courses on UC BerkeleyX conform
to the WCAG 2.0 AA technical standards to the extent necessary so that individuals
with vision, hearing and manual disabilities can acquire the same information, engage
in the same interactions, and enjoy the same services as individuals without
disabilities with substantially equivalent ease of use.
Develop and implement procedures to ensure that UC Berkeley content on the UC
Berkeley YouTube channel conforms to the WCAG 2.0 AA technical standards to the
extent necessary so that individuals with vision, hearing, and manual disabilities can
acquire the same information, engage in the same interactions, and enjoy the same
services as individuals without disabilities with substantially equivalent ease of use.
Develop and implement procedures to ensure that UC Berkeley content on the UC
Berkeley iTunes U platform conforms to the WCAG 2.0 AA technical standards to
the extent necessary so that individuals with vision, hearing, and manual disabilities
can acquire the same information, engage in the same interactions, and enjoy the
same services as individuals without disabilities with substantially equivalent ease of
use.
Develop mechanisms and implement procedures for UC Berkeley to solicit, receive
and respond to feedback regarding any barriers to access to the online content on UC
BerkeleyX, UC Berkeley’s YouTube channels or iTunesU platform, as well as
feedback on how to improve the accessibility of that content.
Pay compensatory damages to aggrieved individuals for injuries caused by UC
Berkeley’s failure to comply with title II.
11
This letter addresses only the issues investigated as part of this investigation and should not be
construed to address any other title II issues not investigated at this time.
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IV.
Conclusion
We hope to work together with you to resolve our concerns regarding the accessibility of
UC Berkeley’s online content. The Department prefers to resolve this matter cooperatively
through a court-enforceable consent decree that brings UC Berkeley into compliance with the
ADA. 28 C.F.R § 35.173. In the event that we are unable to reach such a resolution, the
Attorney General may initiate a lawsuit pursuant to the ADA. 42 U.S.C. § 12133; 28 C.F.R
§ 35.174. Please contact Charlotte Lanvers at (202) 305-0706 or charlotte.lanvers-at-usdoj.gov or
Elisabeth Oppenheimer at (202) 616-3653 or elisabeth.oppenheimer-at-usdoj.gov within two
weeks of the date of this letter if you are willing to resolve this matter voluntarily or if you have
any questions regarding this letter.12
Sincerely,
Rebecca B. Bond
Chief
Disability Rights Section
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Please note that this Letter of Findings is a public document and will be posted on the Civil
Rights Division’s website.
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So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

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  1. 2017-03-01 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] everything old is new again
  2. 2017-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Art Quiz this week
  3. 2017-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Animation
  4. 2017-03-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] For your consideration: Two more films
  5. 2017-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] For your consideration: Two more films
  6. 2017-03-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] coding in the real world and the employment testing
  7. 2017-03-03 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] coding in the real world and the employment
  8. 2017-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] cladistic allgoeirthms
  9. 2017-03-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] cost in evolution
  10. 2017-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Truly awesome pics
  11. 2017-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] growlll
  12. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Check out the badlands of Alberta
  13. 2017-03-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Check out the badlands of Alberta
  14. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Check out the badlands of Alberta
  15. 2017-03-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Check out the badlands of Alberta
  16. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all
  17. 2017-03-08 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Truly awesome pics
  18. 2017-03-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all
  19. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all
  20. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all
  21. 2017-03-08 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all
  22. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Truly awesome pics
  23. 2017-03-08 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Truly awesome pics
  24. 2017-03-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Truly awesome pics
  25. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] If a tree falls in the quantum forrest,
  26. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] one step closer to the end of humanity
  27. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] slow strangulation of privacy
  28. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] ending network neutrality
  29. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] why do these guys have to screw up the subway
  30. 2017-03-09 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  31. 2017-03-08 From: "eBay Government Relations" <eBay-at-reply1.ebay.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben: oppose harmful Internet tax legislation in
  32. 2017-03-08 From: "CyberAlert LLC." <newsletter-at-cyberalert.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Newsletter: Social Media Monitoring: A Potent
  33. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  34. 2017-03-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  35. 2017-03-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  36. 2017-03-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  37. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  38. 2017-03-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  39. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  40. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  41. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] baseball surprise
  42. 2017-03-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  43. 2017-03-09 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: Whisper: "
  44. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Non-Destructive scanning of TREX
  45. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  46. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  47. 2017-03-09 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  48. 2017-03-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  49. 2017-03-10 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  50. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  51. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] neural Networks and Quantum Mechanics
  52. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Israeli MBAs
  53. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Studying in Israel
  54. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: Whisper: "
  55. 2017-03-09 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <noreply-at-embs.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Your EMB Weekly Newsletter is HERE!
  56. 2017-03-10 From: "APhA's Pharmacy Today" <PTdaily-at-aphanet.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] March 10, 2017: To save on drug costs,
  57. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] dont look
  58. 2017-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] dont look
  59. 2017-03-10 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  60. 2017-03-10 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Our Friends from Canada love us all: my
  61. 2017-03-09 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben: oppose harmful Internet tax legislation
  62. 2017-03-11 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Volcano bulletin, as I approach Montserrat Island
  63. 2017-03-09 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] slow strangulation of privacy
  64. 2017-03-09 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] one step closer to the end of humanity
  65. 2017-03-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Stuff for sale
  66. 2017-03-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Freilich Um Purim all
  67. 2017-03-11 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Freilich Um Purim all
  68. 2017-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] the internet of death
  69. 2017-03-12 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] No tech meeting on Tue Mar 14, but ...
  70. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben: oppose harmful Internet tax legislation
  71. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] slow strangulation of privacy
  72. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] one step closer to the end of humanity
  73. 2017-03-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #294 - Perl Developer Survey
  74. 2017-03-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #294 - Perl Developer Survey
  75. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Stuff for sale
  76. 2017-03-13 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Stuff for sale: What's the rent on that apt ?
  77. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Stuff for sale: What's the rent on that apt ?
  78. 2017-03-13 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Stuff for sale: Understood and condolences.
  79. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  80. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  81. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Contact DOJ and thell them to blow it out their ass
  82. 2017-03-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  83. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  84. 2017-03-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  85. 2017-03-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Stuff for sale
  86. 2017-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  87. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] im not feeling well
  88. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] im not feeling well
  89. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  90. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  91. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  92. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  93. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: DOJ threatens to pull all educational
  94. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  95. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  96. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calgary - worth seeing
  97. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  98. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  99. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  100. 2017-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calgary - worth seeing
  101. 2017-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd: Contact DOJ and thell
  102. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] DOJ threatens to pull all educational videos
  103. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] DOJ threatens to pull all educational videos
  104. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hospital report
  105. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  106. 2017-03-15 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] jobs
  107. 2017-03-14 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] im not feeling well
  108. 2017-03-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the end of free education
  109. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Job Leads
  110. 2017-03-15 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward, two steps backward..:
  111. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd: Contact DOJ and thell
  112. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward, two steps backward..:
  113. 2017-03-15 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hospital report: Chocolate ! also causes heart
  114. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  115. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  116. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  117. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rebecca Bond - Enemy of the People
  118. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rebecca Bond - Enemy of the People
  119. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Special Interests War on the internet
  120. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  121. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] end the ADA
  122. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] end the ADA
  123. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fire Judge Katherine A. Robertson
  124. 2017-03-15 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] "Unprecedented winter storm of historic magnitude,
  125. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  126. 2017-03-15 Andrew Beyer <beyer.andrew-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [nylug-talk] Fwd: Contact DOJ and thell them to
  127. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [beyer.andrew-at-gmail.com: Re: [nylug-talk] Fwd:
  128. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] MIT sued to remove content
  129. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Cosmo Magasize can be shut down by the ADA
  130. 2017-03-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] DOJ threatens to pull all educational videos
  131. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  132. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  133. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  134. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  135. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  136. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  137. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the end of free education
  138. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] DOJ threatens to pull all educational videos
  139. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] DOJ threatens to pull all educational videos
  140. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  141. 2017-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the end of free education
  142. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  143. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  144. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  145. 2017-03-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the end of free education
  146. 2017-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  147. 2017-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the end of free education
  148. 2017-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  149. 2017-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  150. 2017-03-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] One step forward,
  151. 2017-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the end of free education

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