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MESSAGE
DATE 2017-01-30
FROM Rick Moen
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news,
Quoting Mancini, Sabin (DFS) (Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov):

> That's Obama's list of designated countries he used, for expediency

That's not even a _competent_ distortion of the facts. Seriously, it
would be nice of you could aim for a better class of obfuscation.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/

Sorry, Mr. President: The Obama Administration Did Nothing Similar to
Your Immigration Ban
BY JON FINER
JANUARY 30, 2017 - 8:30 AM

[...]
In light of all that, and particular in light of the new White House’s
acknowledged aversion to facts, it may seem like a minor point that
President Donald Trump and his advisors, in seeking to justify and
normalize the executive order, have made a series of false or misleading
claims about steps taken five years earlier by the Barack Obama
administration. In case you missed it, a statement from the president
published Sunday afternoon read:

“My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned
visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named
in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by
the Obama administration as sources of terror.”

Leaving aside the unusual nature of team Trump looking to his
predecessors’ policies for cover, it seems worth pointing out this
statement obscures at least five enormous differences between the
executive order the White House issued on Friday and what the Obama
administration did.

1. Much narrower focus: The Obama administration conducted a review in
2011 of the vetting procedures applied to citizens of a single country
(Iraq) and then only to refugees and applicants for Special Immigrant
Visas (SIVs), created by Congress to help Iraqis (and later Afghans) who
supported the United States in those conflicts. [...]

2. Not a ban: Contrary to Trump’s Sunday statement and the repeated
claims of his defenders, the Obama administration did not “ban visas for
refugees from Iraq for six months.” For one thing, refugees don’t travel
on visas. More importantly, while the flow of Iraqi refugees slowed
significantly during the Obama administration’s review, refugees
continued to be admitted to the United States during that time, and
there was not a single month in which no Iraqis arrived here. [...]

3. Grounded in specific threat: The Obama administration’s 2011 review
came in response to specific threat information, including the arrest in
Kentucky of two Iraqi refugees, still the only terrorism-related arrests
out of about 130,000 Iraqi refugees and SIV holders admitted to the
United States. [...]

4. Orderly, organized process: The Obama administration’s review was
conducted over roughly a dozen deputies and principals committee
meetings, involving Cabinet and deputy Cabinet-level officials from all
of the relevant departments and agencies — including the State, Homeland
Security and Justice Departments — and the intelligence community.
[...]

5. Far stronger vetting today: Much has been made of Trump’s call for
“extreme vetting” for citizens of certain countries. The entire purpose
of the Obama administration’s 2011 review was to enhance the already
stringent vetting to which refugees and SIV applicants were subjected.
While many of the details are classified, those rigorous procedures,
which lead to waiting times of 18-24 months for many Iraqi and Syrian
refugees, remain in place today and are continually reviewed by
interagency officials.

So, no. Try to peddle that particular clumsy lie to someone who's not
paying attention. (Like maybe the alleged President, the wack job who
refuses to listen to anyone else, and spends all of his time tweeting
and obsessively watching cable news. If you can get his attention, he's
probably easy to manipulate.)


The most infuriating result of this trainwreck so far, aside from the
attempt to overturn the authority of the Judicial Branch, is the sudden
denial of entry to holders of Special Immigrant Visas.

You seem kind of oblivious, so I'll spell this out for you. When
certain Iraqis (and later Afghans) have put their lives on the line for
years working for the US military, such as working as interpreters
for our war effort, the Army in gratitude has gotten them those visas
so they can come over and continue working with the Army here, and not
get killed at home by anti-American forces. This is not just gratitude
at work but also basic common sense: If people who put their lives at
risk to work for us get abandoned, hardly anyone's going to risk doing
that in the future.

Two such men, interpreters for the US Army in Iraq who had already been
vetted and cleared for entry, are still being illegally detained at JFK
and being illegally denied access to their attorneys in defiance of a
Brooklyn Federal judge's court order. Worse, all future US Special
Immigrant Visas holders who are deemed to be 'from' [sic] any of the
seven countries are being summarily denied boarding rights to come to
the USA as arranged.

So, I guess official policy is now to shaft people who've risked their
lives for us. The more fools they, eh? Wow, they sure got conned.
But I'm sure that problem will go away quickly, as the word gets out
that we leave anyone who helps us to get killed. The problem will solve
itself.

I do agree with Discount Mussolini about the need for a big, beautiful
wall. Two of them, in fact, one around the Executive Mansion and the
other around the Capitol Building, each inscribed on the inward facing
side with the words 'You're fired' in 2500 point Comic Sans. Think of
it as urban renewal.

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  108. 2017-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Amazing Photographic history of Hell
  109. 2017-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children
  110. 2017-01-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) [skeptic] Coming soon to YOUR country's
  111. 2017-01-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: NYC TechBreakfast 1/26 -at-LIUBK Pratt 110
  112. 2017-01-25 From: "SUSE" <news-at-suse.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] SUSE Acquires Talent and Technology Assets from HPE
  113. 2017-01-24 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  114. 2017-01-24 IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society <noreply-at-embs.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Call For Papers - 39th Annual International
  115. 2017-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] R Programming Workshop
  116. 2017-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines
  117. 2017-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] MTM
  118. 2017-01-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MTM
  119. 2017-01-25 ruth02-at-web.de Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Are you not the one that said: ....."the next
  120. 2017-01-25 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rick Moen in Amsterdam: is this foto of famous
  121. 2017-01-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines
  122. 2017-01-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rick Moen in Amsterdam: is this foto of famous
  123. 2017-01-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Are you not the one arguing against yourself? (was:
  124. 2017-01-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] FYI Mountain Fruit has 3 lbs of apples for $0.99
  125. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines II
  126. 2017-01-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines II
  127. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines II
  128. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] good video
  129. 2017-01-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines II
  130. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Microsoft Linux is finally here
  131. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Installfest at LIU Brooklyn
  132. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] intro to docker
  133. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] coreboot and payloads
  134. 2017-01-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] coreboot and payloads
  135. 2017-01-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines II
  136. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MTM
  137. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] coreboot and payloads
  138. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] librepalnet
  139. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] librepalnet
  140. 2017-01-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] coreboot and payloads
  141. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] coreboot and payloads
  142. 2017-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines III
  143. 2017-01-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines III
  144. 2017-01-27 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] sooo smart
  145. 2017-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The future of the world....plastic
  146. 2017-01-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) [skeptic] Alex Jones says Infowars has been
  147. 2017-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) [skeptic] Alex Jones says Infowars has
  148. 2017-01-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) [skeptic] Alex Jones says Infowars has
  149. 2017-01-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Holo-who?
  150. 2017-01-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  151. 2017-01-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  152. 2017-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  153. 2017-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  154. 2017-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  155. 2017-01-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  156. 2017-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] want to see STUPID - Daniel Benjamin
  157. 2017-01-29 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] want to see STUPID - Daniel Benjamin
  158. 2017-01-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  159. 2017-01-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  160. 2017-01-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  161. 2017-01-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  162. 2017-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  163. 2017-01-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines IV
  164. 2017-01-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  165. 2017-01-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Holo-who?
  166. 2017-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the Week
  167. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  168. 2017-01-29 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] Upcoming PNG chunk voting
  169. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  170. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Holo-who?
  171. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  172. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Backups to external media
  173. 2017-01-30 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news,
  174. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] R Programming Workshop
  175. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Installfest for Lunch
  176. 2017-01-30 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <mat-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] MAT Application Deadline Extended
  177. 2017-01-30 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #288 - Grants committee looking for
  178. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] 7 Awesome Open Source Web Performance Software For
  179. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Beer and social meeting
  180. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  181. 2017-01-30 From: "Rijksmuseum" <rijksstudio-at-news.rijksmuseum.nl> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Winter Wonderland in Rijksstudio
  182. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  183. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  184. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  185. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  186. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news,
  187. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  188. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  189. 2017-01-30 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ? Worry
  190. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  191. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  192. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  193. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  194. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  195. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  196. 2017-01-30 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] #'s I, V and XIV,
  197. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] #'s I, V and XIV,
  198. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] #'s I, V and XIV,
  199. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  200. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] #'s I, V and XIV,
  201. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  202. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] continued noise
  203. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] country being deliberately monkeywrenched ?
  204. 2017-01-30 Center for Entrepreneurship and Innovation Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Kickoff_for_LIU-Brooklyn=E2=80=99s_Regi?=
  205. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [communications-at-pharmacistelink.com: Walgreens
  206. 2017-01-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  207. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines V
  208. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] H1B visas are BULLSHIT
  209. 2017-01-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  210. 2017-01-30 From: =?utf-8?Q?Brooklyn=20Museum?= <brooklynvisitor-at-brooklynmuseum.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Target_First_Saturday=3A_Free_Night_at_?=
  211. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  212. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) Re: #'s I, V and XIV,
  213. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] CAIR roots - National Review
  214. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] cpu limits
  215. 2017-01-31 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) Re: #'s I, V and XIV
  216. 2017-01-31 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Collagen preserved in Early
  217. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) Re: #'s I, V and XIV
  218. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  219. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  220. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Are you not the one arguing against yourself?
  221. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) Re: [skeptic] Let the beheadings commence!
  222. 2017-01-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news headlines III
  223. 2017-01-30 Glenn Randers-Pehrson <glennrp-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [png-mng-implement] CFV: PNG Registration 2017-0125
  224. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) Re: [skeptic] Let the beheadings
  225. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
  226. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Check this out
  227. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] (forw) Re: #'s I, V and XIV
  228. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ruben's "really" important news VI
  229. 2017-01-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [isoc-ny] FCC Seeks Diverse Stakeholders for
  230. 2017-01-31 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Let's take a vote on non free speech software

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