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| DATE | 2017-01-28 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] In other news, making America safe again
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On 01/28/2017 08:16 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 03:30:38PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Another part of President Nitwit's delivery on campaign promises was
>> ordering his Muslim ban, the other day. Mission accomplished!
>>
>> Er, something accomplished?
>>
>> Mr. Nitwit ordered a 90-day ban on entry of all refugees to the United
>> States for 120 days from anywhere in the world, halted admission of
>> refugees from Syria indefinitely, and barred US entry for three months
>> to _any resident_ of the predominantly Muslim countries of Iraq, Syria,
>> Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen.
>
> He left out SA, Dubayi, Kuwait, and most importantly Pakastan and
> Banglagesh
>
> but it is a start
>
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I wouldn't base a decision on this but just to refute the obvious lack
of threat you think there is
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/17/us/ohio-man-trained-in-syria-is-charged-with-planning-terrorism-in-us.html?_r=0
Also - just to be clear, racist or NOT I don't want the US to be a
reflection of all nations in the world. I don't want it to be 1/4
Chinese for example. I certainly don't want it to be proportionally Muslim.
People like you, in their protected lilly white wealthy communities
make the policy and it ends up on my backside in the Streets of Brooklyn.
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Ohio Man Trained in Syria Is Charged With Planning Terrorism in U.S.
By SCOTT SHANEAPRIL 16, 2015
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Abdirahman Sheik Mohamud, left, during a February hearing in Columbus,
Ohio, to set bond on charges of money laundering and providing support
for terrorism. Credit Andrew Welsh-Huggins/Associated Press
WASHINGTON — An Ohio man who trained with a terrorist group in Syria was
accused by federal prosecutors on Thursday of returning to the United
States with the goal of mounting an attack at home, the first example of
a pattern that counterterrorism officials have long feared.
Officials said that the man, Abdirahman Sheik Mohamud, 23, a naturalized
American citizen whose brother was killed fighting in Syria, spoke of
wanting to attack a military facility or a prison in the United States.
A cleric in Syria told Mr. Mohamud when his training was complete that
he should not join the fighting there but go home and “carry out an act
of terrorism,” the federal indictment said. The indictment did not
clarify whether the cleric was affiliated with the Islamic State, also
called ISIS or ISIL; the Nusra Front; or another terrorist group in Syria.
“Mohamud talked about doing something big in the United States,” the
indictment said. “He wanted to go to a military base in Texas and kill
three or four American soldiers execution style.”
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Despite the alleged statements about his desire to carry out an attack,
the indictment gives no indication that Mr. Mohamud did more than talk
about it. At least for now, he has been charged with offering material
support to a designated terrorist group, the Nusra Front, Al Qaeda’s
branch in Syria, but not with plotting a specific attack.
The F.B.I. has tracked about 200 Americans leaving for Syria since
fighting began there in 2011, although that group includes some who
intended to perform humanitarian work and women who wanted to marry
fighters for militant groups. Officials have said they try to identify
those traveling to Syria in part out of concern that they might re-enter
the United States and plot attacks here.
Americans charged with trying to travel to Syria to fight include
immigrants from several countries and American-born converts to Islam,
ranging in age from early teens to late 40s. Somali-Americans, like Mr.
Mohamud, constitute the largest group.
J. M. Berger, a terrorism expert and the co-author of a new book on the
self-described Islamic State, said Mr. Mohamud appeared to be the first
American accused of returning from Syria with directions to attack
inside the United States.
According to his lawyer in Columbus, Sam Shamansky, Mr. Mohamud was born
in Somalia and was an infant when his family emigrated. The family moved
to Columbus in about 1998, he said. Mr. Mohamud graduated from high
school and worked in a warehouse, among other jobs. His only prior
criminal record was for a minor theft charge, the lawyer said.
At a house listed as Mr. Mohamud’s residence, on a street crowded with
white duplexes on the West Side of Columbus, a woman wearing a blue head
scarf answered the door on Thursday evening. She declined to answer
questions and referred a reporter to the lawyer.
Mr. Mohamud is one of three children, Mr. Shamansky said. A sister is
currently in college. Mr. Mohamud’s brother, Aden, left the United
States in May 2013 and became a fighter with the Nusra Front in August
2013, the indictment said.
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By then, Mr. Mohamud was himself posting messages on Facebook about the
fighting in Syria, cheering on the Islamic State and other groups
battling the forces of the Syrian government. In December 2013, he
posted an image of a soldier holding a sniper rifle with the Islamic
State logo in the corner, the indictment says. He also exchanged
messages with his brother, seeking advice on how to follow him to Syria
and discussing how to send him money.
In April 2014, Mr. Mohamud bought a ticket to Athens, with a stopover in
Istanbul. Investigators believe he got off the plane in Istanbul and
never took the flight to Athens. In Turkey, he contacted representatives
of the Nusra Front and traveled to Reyhanli, a city on the
Turkish-Syrian border. The indictment quotes a Nusra contact as saying
that Mr. Mohamud initially intended to join the Islamic State but it
does not say what group he ultimately joined.
After entering Syria, Mr. Mohamud sent videos of himself to a friend in
the United States in which he pointed to a gun in a holster on his hip
and carried an AK-47. He later described receiving training in “shooting
weapons, breaking into houses, explosives and hand-to-hand combat,” the
indictment says. He also said he served as a night guard at the training
camp.
Last June, when his brother was killed in battle, Mr. Mohamud posted a
message about the death on Facebook. About that time, Mr. Mohamud
finished his training and “was about to begin fighting for an
organization in Syria,” when the cleric with the same organization
directed him to return to the United States.
In addition to the Nusra Front and the Islamic State, a third possible
affiliation for the training camp and cleric is the Khorasan Group —
Qaeda operatives dispatched from Pakistan to Syria with the goal of
plotting against Western targets. Justice Department officials declined
to say on Thursday whether they knew the identity of the group or why
they did not name it.
Mr. Mohamud returned to the United States last June and was arrested in
Ohio on Feb. 21 and charged with violating state law. Court papers in
Ohio said he “provided material support and resources or electronic
devices to persons engaged in terrorism in the Middle East and has
traveled to that area of the world,” but they left vague exactly what he
had done.
The indictment asserts that in the United States, Mr. Mohamud told a
friend that Aden’s death made him happy, and that he expected to “join
Aden soon” in death.
He has been incarcerated since his arrest. Mr. Shamansky said he had
been in negotiations with prosecutors for several weeks about a possible
plea deal, but that no agreement was reached and the federal indictment
resulted.
“Everybody has been working very hard to resolve this matter short of a
trial, but it didn’t happen,” Mr. Shamansky said. “He’s caught up in a
very difficult and harrowing situation.”
He said Mr. Mohamud would plead not guilty.
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