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| DATE | 2016-12-18 |
| FROM | Rick Moen
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
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Oh, by the way...
Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com):
> Your accusation against myself and the former Mayor is laughable.
What followed this astonishing statement suggested you understood me to
have called both you and ex-Mayor Giuliani racists. I just reviewed
all of my prior postings. I never so claimed or so suggested.
I did observe:
I notice that you appear to have a fixation with using political power
to attack black people. Not surprising; so does Guiliani.
Notice that my focus was abuse of power. I said nothing about who is
and isn't racist; that's pretty much irrelevant and really not my
concern.
In fact, it was fascinating: In the exchange in question, you kept time
and again obsessing about racism, whereas I kept attempting (apparently
unsuccessfully) to focus your attention on official (and
aspiring-official, when Giuliani was a candidate) lawlessness. Here,
let me quote my part of that:
Please explain to me how fomenting a police riot of many thousands of
off-duty officers did anything constructive at all. If a candidate for
mayor near me did that, I'd want him immediately prosecuted and thrown
in prison, and I'd sure as hell never consider him qualified for even
dogcatcher, let alone Mayor.
I notice that you appear to have a fixation with using political power
to attack black people. Not surprising; so does Giuliani.
[...]
I'm _still_ not stupid, Ruben. To repeat, Giuliani's abuse of the
mayoral office did _not_ consist of his trying to cut off NYC funding of
Prof. Joel Berger, as there was _no_ NYC funding of Prof. Joel Berger.
Giuliani's aides called NYU on his behalf to threaten cutoff of city
funding for an unrelated program unless NYU fired Prof. Berger from
_its_ payroll.
Read that again and again, until you understand it -- because evidently
you are having severe reading-comprehension problems.
[...]
1. Do I have to teach you your NYC history, now? He wasn't the Mayor.
He was a candidate for Mayor.
2. I'm sorry, but are you seriously suggesting that inciting a police
riot is justified by some other people being racist? Or are you
back to imagining that I've suddenly become stupid?
[...]
Actually, I expect an alleged leader like candidate Giuliani to not
deliberately incite the police to riot, which is clearly a premeditated
criminal act, and the very opposite of leadership.
[...]
So, as I mentioned, interesting: I talked pretty much entirely about
irresponsible abuse of power and ignored the 'racism' topics you kept
wanting to editorialize about. Now, months later, you are acting
like the substance of what I said was merely to accuse you and your
former mayor of racism -- which is nothing like what I said -- while
ignoring entirely what I actually did say.
I'll consider your apology.
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