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| DATE | 2016-11-14 |
| FROM | Rick Moen
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
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Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
> and her agenda was to kill Jews, as far as I could tell.
I'll just leave that lying there, as evidence that you really have gone
utterly around the bend.
> She was also the pound scum who supports the entire regime of copyright
> law and degraded privacy laws to a trickle.
Yeah, I meant to circle back to you on that, because upthread you said
something remarkably stupid on the subject, even for you: I had just
got through mocking you for blaming DMCA on the First Lady, when DMCA
was a treaty negotiated by the US Trade Representative, agreed to by the
President, and ratified by _unanimous vote of the Senate_ -- which is
what I point out to you. And you said (closely paraphrased), no, this
was normal legislation passed through both houses of Congress.
Ruben, this is really shocking: The _one_ subject you absolutely rant
about all the bloody time -- the DMCA -- and you _both_ fail to know its
nature and history _and_ then refuse to listen to correct information.
One more time -- and you can look this up (needn't take this at my
word): DMCA was an Article II treaty. Quoting the Constitution, Aricle
II, Section 2, Clause 2:
[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent
of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators
present concur...
As Wikipedia clarifies at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Clause,
this is one of three different sorts of international instruments that,
in international law contexts are called 'treaties'. The other two are
Congress-Executive agreements (CEAs) and sole-executive agreements.
An Article II treaty is necessary domestically if the intent is to be
effective for future Congresses and Presidents. Otherwise, either of
the other two might suffice, with a CEA being the minimum if
Congressional powers are involved. By contrast, say, a military treaty
could be a sole-executive agreements because of the President's
authority as commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
A CEA would have needed passage by a majority (not 2/3) of each house of
Congress. You would have been correct if DMCA has been a CEA. But it
wasn't. It was a classic treaty under Article II.
Go back to school and learn some civics, already.
> So take your fascist candidate....
She wasn't _my_ candidate. The only reason I voted for a slate of 55
state electors pledge to vote for her on Dec. 19th is that the
alternative choice was a ridiculously incompetent con man whose idea of
Presidential leadership was throwing tantrums on Twitter at 3:30-5am
about a 1970s beauty contest winner, and personally attacking Gold Star
parents.
So, it was a competent, unexciting, and conventional politician or a
catastrophe. You wanted the catastrophe; I preferred the politician.
Now, we both get the catastrophe.
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