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| DATE | 2016-10-29 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
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On 10/28/2016 11:49 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
>
>> > Iraq had [...] a state of the art jet proposition lab
> (_Proposition) lab, I like that. Turning out devilishly complicated
> variants on the words 'of' and 'about', I would imagine.]
>
> Here, let me help you, starting with a circa-1990 article:
> http://fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/facility/al_kindi.htm
>
> Al Kindi Research Complex / Saad 16
> Sa'ad General Establishment
>
> Saad 16, located at Mosul near the Tigris River, was the biggest
> missile development site in Iraq. It was the primary Condor II missile
> development center, with additional research conducted on chemical and
> nuclear weapons. Missile research facilities include launch range,
> high-speed wind tunnels, missile test facilities, and chemical and
> electronics laboratories. An aircraft production facility was planned
> nearby. Among the projects at Saad 16 was a nuclear weapon construction
> effort.
whatever. The Germans and British were smuggling in trigger mechanisms
and such to Iraq in the late 1990's and after desert storm.
FWIW, I'm not really interested in the documentation you drum up on
this. I was alive and I was in the Military, and I remember ...
The grumbling from the UN was starting to rumble by bleeding hearts and
pro-facists leftist Islamic commie punks to remove sanctions because of
the starving children, and discussion that became mute once we attacked
Iraq and occupied it. Attacking Iraq made all the little despots very
nervous about US intentions and that was good. You can't maintain
sanctions effectively for a long period of time, because you end up
dieing of a million paper cuts, or circumvented by a power patron.
He threatened us, as many of them do and I don't feel the need to
justify an attack on anyone who threatens us. And until the end he was
claiming his prowness to develop such weapons and protected the
infrastructure, and the research scientists needed, to ramp right back
up the minute sanctions failed.
There was no reason to leave Iraq either. WE made this mess, not by
attacking Iraq, but with the withdraw. When you withdraw then you have
to arm and compromise with people you don't trust. That is how deals
like the Iran deal happens, and how we armed Iraq decades ago.
And that is why we are having a new version of Vietnam slowly developing
in Africa right now. It is stupid, IMO.
I'm pretty much done with this debate now. I have bigger fish to fry,
like my thesis.
http://www.nylxs.com/thesis/
Ruben
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