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DATE	2016-10-07
FROM	Ruben Safir
SUBJECT	Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives!
On 10/07/2016 03:41 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com): > >> > it is not like guns and butter... > It's a fair point that, unlike the production of and trade in guns and > butter, spending directed towards state prisons has only an extremely > weak multiplier effect, no matter how high the marginal propensity to > consume in the larger economy. > > (Oh, wait, that's _not_ the point you were trying to make. You were > having a go at that thing where, if you tell reality it doesn't exist > consistently enough, it might go away.) > > I should explain, here, I'm talking about economics and public policy, > so I'm not participating in the exchange of ideological positions you > try to reduce nearly every discussion to. Anyway, try to teke notes. > > You don't build prisons to help the economy. You build them because you need them. The cost of prisons doesn't factor to a father who's 14 year old daughter was just popped in the head with a 22 and lays bleeding on the asphalt. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 _______________________________________________ hangout mailing list hangout-at-nylxs.com http://www.nylxs.com/