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| DATE | 2016-10-07 |
| FROM | Rick Moen
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives!
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Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
> On 10/07/2016 05:34 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> > It turns out, within the last thirty years, California has built 22
> > prisons. In that same time span, it's built _one_ additional University
> > of California campus.
>
>
> That is an irrelevant comparison.
Exactly like guns and butter!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_versus_butter_model
(That's an Economics 101 thing. You wouldn't have heard of it.)
> Why did you need more campuses?
Um, how about because of vastly more people?
1980: 23 million
2016: 40 million
Seriously, Ruben? Was this _actually_ difficult for you to figure out?
> You build campuses when you need them and you build prisons when you
> need them.
Oh, you mean when the state population increases by 75%, we ought to
increase the number of University of California campuses by 75%?
I agree. But we iCalifornia citizens were able to afford only a 10%
increase -- in large part because the money got diverted to building
those 22 prisons.
> That stupid 3 strike law was created by a population desperate to
> solve a crime problem that was swallowing them....
Shoplifting and minor drug offences, two of the major categories on the
books that stuffed the state prisons to such bulging proportions that
the US Supreme court started intervening, were not 'swallowing' the
citizenry of my state.
I care about my tax money not getting wasted on account of broken public
policy. You appear to not care about my tax money. Which is
predictable, but screw you on that. And, again, thank you for not being
a California voter.
> And that is state level. I'm sure there is Municipal jails also. There
> are about 40million people in California, FWIW.
So, you're not _totally_ innumerate; you just cannot handle long
division?
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