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| DATE | 2016-05-04 |
| FROM | Paul Robert Marino
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Anyone know the answer
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well yes putting it on a secure network is crazy talk.
but that's not what its meant for. its meant for home networks for
things like internet video games.
before what you would have to do is statically map a mac address in
the DHCP server to an IP address, next open a port out of a possible
vendor defined range, then configure the listen port in the
application. all of this is child's play for you and I but for many
users it was a major pain.
so the game manufacturers commissioned an RFC
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6970 then they bugged Microsoft and all
of the home router manufacturers to implement it.
incidentally many good routers have ways you can lock it down, such as
only allow it from certain IP's, and restricting the possible port
numbers. that said I'm still waiting on a version which requires some
kind of authentication and or 3rd party approval.
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 05/04/2016 01:32 PM, Rshana Shurriah wrote:
>>
>> UPnP
>>
>
> The problem here is that UPnP is not a protocol but a complex set of
> application and networking layer proposals. It was pushed by Microsoft
> et al, but no one wants to run this. The idea that you can plug a
> server into the wall and that it will punch a hole through the firewall
> on request, by having the NAT server manipulate NAT and ARP tables,
> which is what we are talking about here, is an ABSURD SECURITY RISK.
>
> There is a reason why the DMS is called a DMS.
>
>
>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Ruben Safir <[1]ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> � Question 8
>> Which of the following protocols allow a service running at a local
>> PC
>> to request a router to open a port to that service so that the
>> outside
>> world can access the service?
>> � � � � a.� � � DHCP
>> � � � � b.� � � UPnP
>> � � � � c.� � � NAT
>> � � � � d.� � � NAPT
>> Obviously not DHCP, and generally not NAT either.
>> --
>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>> [2]http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>> [3]http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>> [4]http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
>> [5]http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
>> [6]http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
>> 2. http://www.mrbrklyn.com/
>> 3. http://www.nylxs.com/
>> 4. http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources
>> 5. http://www.coinhangout.com/
>> 6. http://www.brooklyn-living.com/
>> 7. mailto:hangout-at-nylxs.com
>> 8. http://www.nylxs.com/
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> _______________________________________________
> hangout mailing list
> hangout-at-nylxs.com
> http://www.nylxs.com/
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