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DATE | 2016-01-22 |
FROM | Dave Thomas
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Fri Jan 22 19:51:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C916516112B; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:51:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DB5016112C; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:19:21 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:19:21 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20160122231921.GE5168-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com (mail-oi0-f44.google.com [209.85.218.44]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1601516112C for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id p187so51820328oia.2 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:45:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pragprog-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=sMaC7lTt0l0KEcm8o2UPIgRio29YrwfVOn2FHURxE8U=; b=XW7rj+WNeo5XBwXXrYnyVfeis17rpxEYCL00oI/UwS+SwdVtDu6YiG2oLdpL4MkqWC 6lYw/HKfOD6Qo8QVy/x7uFb8+R4h5Me43rDgxGEpDJ+9z7X5VEzT2Afd1XStGi0/C7Vv MOe7pKWug/GkPF2nBXiH3VF6Q2U2JCrW/cMSIQaLk0qAyZIK4MULnnnJ1nXrpQqQkYV1 NOPJUZ+0gbiMW3ybDduhsDTPjV/sxBh/CvsS4zZs5f+Iulh+x7HIpCoXk0pwLzNAJe6o EiOq6akhTT7XBNCPIRqtIPI7atb6e8NhJ4Uo/KUhf44e+2huo9d3wyCa05skG+EjyhhO 1GwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=sMaC7lTt0l0KEcm8o2UPIgRio29YrwfVOn2FHURxE8U=; b=R1m1I0X7t0vzG2hDIm4wW1LAqWmL40Xximeeo3YPTZVDuKHMepbnpOqs4nY0m/mnxK xZ6gqgK33fxW+q/I2m+fjHBNJFD6Ai/XYffuPWlwdjjtJKl3sOM8evuH8VhtfHHPribW Q13KOGK3WLadp2/9u2jMRcuLShw78WYc0OTJK54H00ZylXic9NTzRDWpGy33VZVTlKye vks7k7lt35GdU07wQ1RfFMqzplxzfwKgL4QTV/PCmg+gNMqlcsHG4SwmUXHt9aF2uIM+ HIv/poQZkm66/r4PK4NZs6VYEhhwVloRu+3VF2yv5cGz2CssQgo+hPBvS6WK7gXBvHO6 eQlw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQ7zbUbmFxcwBzUTrNbj2pgybkdbfA4j5MSJ0YQ9GrJQue2Ru09nGIrOuivja6c5LR2qtVH06IdN2qe0Q== X-Received: by 10.202.177.193 with SMTP id a184mr3075673oif.86.1453484717104; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:45:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.83.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:44:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160122165050.GA20499-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> References: <56A0CA0C.4020504-at-mrbrklyn.com> <56A0F1A5.5080804-at-pragprog.com> <20160121223314.GA620-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> <20160122165050.GA20499-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> From: Dave Thomas Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:44:57 -0600 Message-ID: To: Ruben Safir X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:07:48 -0500 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: Pragprog Support , "sales-at-pragmaticprogrammer.com" , Dave Thomas , Hangout , andy Subject: Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: NYLXS Discussions List List-Id: NYLXS Discussions List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0110956141==" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "hangout"
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> > > > We > > don't track you, apart from the session cookie. We use analytics to help > us > > optimize the site. We do not have any advertising links. > > and THAT is not a fact. You have double click and google analystics > is reported to google.
That's what I said. We use Google Analytics to optimize our site. DoubleClick is part of Google, and I guess Google routes the analytics through them.
> > No - it is the tracking that is an assult on my individualality and rights > as a human. > > It is not my nerves. I don't want to be tracked. >
Is that much different to someone who adds extra people to an email thread without notifying the original participant?. I value my privacy, too, and I find what you did to be an invasion of it.
For the record, I view our conversation as private, and object to others being added to it.
Now, a positive suggestion. Why not create a proxy DNS that redirects doubleclick.net, google.com, and whatever else to a null server? That way, you could buy not just from our site, but from every other site on the net which uses the practices you object to.
Regards
Dave Thomas
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> > > > We > > don't track you, apart from the session cookie. We use analytics to help > us > > optimize the site. We do not have any advertising links. > > and THAT is not a fact. You have double click and google analystics > is reported to google.
That's what I said. We use Google Analytics to optimize our site. DoubleClick is part of Google, and I guess Google routes the analytics through them.
> > No - it is the tracking that is an assult on my individualality and rights > as a human. > > It is not my nerves. I don't want to be tracked. >
Is that much different to someone who adds extra people to an email thread without notifying the original participant?. I value my privacy, too, and I find what you did to be an invasion of it.
For the record, I view our conversation as private, and object to others being added to it.
Now, a positive suggestion. Why not create a proxy DNS that redirects doubleclick.net, google.com, and whatever else to a null server? That way, you could buy not just from our site, but from every other site on the net which uses the practices you object to.
Regards
Dave Thomas
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