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DATE 2016-01-22
FROM Dave Thomas
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> and THAT is not a fact. You have double click and google analystics
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That's what I said. We use Google Analytics to optimize our site.
DoubleClick is part of Google, and I guess Google routes the analytics
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> No - it is the tracking that is an assult on my individualality and rights
> as a human.
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> It is not my nerves. I don't want to be tracked.
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Is that much different to someone who adds extra people to an email thread
without notifying the original participant?. I value my privacy, too, and
I find what you did to be an invasion of it.

For the record, I view our conversation as private, and object to others
being added to it.


Now, a positive suggestion. Why not create a proxy DNS that redirects
doubleclick.net, google.com, and whatever else to a null server? That way,
you could buy not just from our site, but from every other site on the net
which uses the practices you object to.


Regards



Dave Thomas

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> > We
> > don't track you, apart from the session cookie. We use analytics to help
> us
> > optimize the site. We do not have any advertising links.
>
> and THAT is not a fact. You have double click and google analystics
> is reported to google.


That's what I said. We use Google Analytics to optimize our site.
DoubleClick is part of Google, and I guess Google routes the analytics
through them.



>
> No - it is the tracking that is an assult on my individualality and rights
> as a human.
>
> It is not my nerves. I don't want to be tracked.
>

Is that much different to someone who adds extra people to an email thread
without notifying the original participant?. I value my privacy, too, and
I find what you did to be an invasion of it.

For the record, I view our conversation as private, and object to others
being added to it.


Now, a positive suggestion. Why not create a proxy DNS that redirects
doubleclick.net, google.com, and whatever else to a null server? That way,
you could buy not just from our site, but from every other site on the net
which uses the practices you object to.


Regards



Dave Thomas

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  1. 2016-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Essential Knowledge
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  3. 2016-01-01 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Essential Knowledge
  4. 2016-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] nylxs.com mailing list memberships reminder
  5. 2016-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Going to be out of touch
  6. 2016-01-05 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Check out this picture...
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  8. 2016-01-06 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [LIU Computer Science Club] I have an
  9. 2016-01-08 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Peter Seigel died
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  13. 2016-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Journal Club meeting?
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  39. 2016-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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  41. 2016-01-22 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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  43. 2016-01-22 Dave Thomas <dave-at-pragprog.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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  56. 2016-01-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ANTLR Packages
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