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On 11/05/2015 10:33 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 01:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>> How do you start Mailman? Where is the bin/mailmanctl that starts it?
>
> /etc/rc.d/mailman which unfortunately is piped through systemd.
>
...
> MM_CT=/usr/lib/mailman/cron/crontab
> MM_CTRL=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl
> MM_PID=/var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid
So starting Mailman runs the Mailman in /usr/lib/mailman/
>> what is in paths.py in the same bin/ directory?
>
> Excellent question...
>
> import os
> import sys
>
> # some scripts expect this attribute to be in this module
> prefix = '/usr/lib/mailman'
And paths.py is consistent with this.
>> Are there any lists with
>> public archives and if so, are there symlinks in
>> /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/archives/public/ and where do they point?
>
> I have done the archives using the same software I wrote in 1996 but the mbox et al seems to be in
>
> www:/etc/postfix # ls -al /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/hangout.mbox/hangout.mbox
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 486238 Nov 5 11:32 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/hangout.mbox/hangout.mbox
>
> www:/etc/postfix # ls -al /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
> total 8
> drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:43 .
> drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 4096 Oct 8 2014 ..
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 daemon mailman 41 Oct 20 23:43 hangout -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/hangout
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 daemon mailman 39 Oct 20 16:08 learn -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/learn
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 41 Oct 20 11:14 mailman -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman
This is all consistent with an instalation with prefix =
/usr/lib/mailman and var_prefix = /var/lib/mailman
>>
>> Do the web server and the qrunners actually reference the same archives,
>
> I would prefer the webserver not to reach the archives that mailman archives at all,
> since my real archive is sitting on a remote postgres server.
And you've basically arranged that by making the archive public as far
as mailman is concerned and telling apache
Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/archives/public/
so at least the default public archive URLs point somewhere where the
archives presumably aren't.
You might consider setting PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL in mm_cfg.py to something like
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://remote.server/whatever/%(listname)s'
You might also avoid this whole patching issue by teaching your archiver
to decode base64 and quoted-printable encoded message bodies.
I still wonder about
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/cgi-bin/
If you do for example
strings /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/cgi-bin/admin | grep mailman
do you see paths like /usr/lib/mailman and /usr/lib/mailman/scripts?
If so, you are probably OK. If they point at some /usr/local/apache
directory, you may have issues with the web UI manipulating totally
different list objects than the real ones.
--
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
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