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| DATE | 2015-06-05 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
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On 06/05/2015 02:02 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
>
>> that doesn't always help either. The chips are often swap out from
>> version to version without changing the identification information,
>> let alone telling anyone.
> You know who does that dramatically more often than any other OEM? Dell
> Computer. I used to say that Gateway 2000 ran a distant second, but I
> see that Acer finished digesting them in 2012.
>
> In recent years, the only major OEM I've seen playing chipset du jour is
> Dell, and fortunately that's been almost entirely on miniPCI cards,
> e.g., wireless cards bundled with laptops, and the good news there is
> that if you get one that's unexpectedly lemoney for Linux use, you can
> return or sell it without needing to do likewise with the main unity.
>
You can pulled the card out and sell it separately?
>> At least if it is running and being sold with Linux, there is a good
>> chance that it has been initially speced out and tested with a default
>> linux version.
> This doesn't seem logical to me at all. OEMs think it's extremely
> normal to have to retrofit weird drivers from doubtful sources into OS
> preloads, so why would they not consider that normal with Linux?
Well, they gottah get someone to write it, which is not a thing they
generally want to do.
Dell and HP might... if pressed. Really, just want to sell a $200 box
and be done with it.
> Instead of a machine that you can safely asasume runs vanilla Ubuntu out
> of the box,
That is NEVER guaranteed with a new laptop, especially a cheap one.
I'm sitting here with 2 lenova think centers what still have trouble
with their video and touchpad.
Ruben
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