MESSAGE
| DATE | 2015-03-10 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
|
| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
|
On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 06:57:11PM -0700, Elfen Magix wrote:
>
> I'm in Upper East Side of Manhattan - 116th Street on the #6 train.
>
> Your Spokeo info stated that your age was 24, which means they screwed up on their data.
>
> Like I said, I'm free this week, so let me know when and where.
>
> Gayle Brewster cares about recognition, so any project that goes up in Manhattan, she wants her name on it in some form of support. She did it with the money grubbers of my Housing Project's Community Center and Free Wifi project through CCNY/CUNY and Time Warner:
> Slash page the WIfi's opening in 6/14, with her mug on there: http://www.mndcop1.org
>
> We can discuss this when we meet, and yes, my mug is there as well.
>
> -Fernando
Tonight at 7PM
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 3/8/15, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Cc: "MegaZell"
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2015, 1:04 AM
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 12:27:09PM -0800, Elfen Magix
> wrote:
> >
> > Damn, you're 24 and look older than me? What a stressed
> out life you lead. LOL-J/K!
>
>
> I don't know what one thing has to do with the other here
> and I get the
> feeling I'm not going to find out...
>
> regardless of the details of the finger printing, it is just
> one more detail
> that we will have to handle when the time come.?
> MEANWHILE, back at the
> ranch, Mary Lou is busy cooken up a nice suppa or possum
> stew and when
> the boys commen back in from the bad lands,
>
> We still have no time and date to meet with Raz to learn his
> existing
> and working techique...
>
> SO,? give mea date and time...
>
> Rafi, I got? social worker lined up for any program we
> can run and maybe
> some cooperation from Groups in Crown Heights.? I see
> nothing from the
> Brooklyn Boro Presidents office.? Manhattan is Gale
> Brewster, and she
> has been a quality representive and aware of tech issues for
> a long
> time.? The Brooklyn guy is a retired cop who formed the
> "100 Black Men
> in the Police Department" or whatever it was called and has
> much less of
> a track record.? And Fernendo is in the Bronx, I
> think.
>
> Ruben
>
>
>
> >
> > But people/companies do use Spokeo as a background
> check based on your email (pay the price for the full
> report) and judge you on all that false information. But
> enough of that. I got a clean email they can search to their
> hearts content with.
> >
> > ~Fernando
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Fri, 3/6/15, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> >
> >? Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
> >? To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >? Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 3:18 PM
> >?
> >?
> >? On 03/06/2015 03:04 PM, Elfen Magix wrote:
> >? > How can I say this without being offensive?
> I can't.
> >? So... *Sneezes!* BULLSHIT!
> >? >
> >? > I have been part of the NYC Bd of Ed and
> later with the
> >? Dept. of Ed since 1984 and help create 2 charter
> schools,
> >? set up the Computer Literacy program it uses to
> this day,
> >? and told the Bd of Ed what it had to do to be up
> to par with
> >? the evolving technology including computerizing
> itself -
> >? back then! So this FBI fingerprinting story is
> Bullshit. The
> >? DOE does fingerprinting background checks with
> the City
> >? Marshall's office in conjunction with the NYPD.
> And for
> >? 99.99999% of all cases, it ends there. The FBI is
> used in
> >? cases of out of non-citizen employment, out of
> nation
> >? potential employees where NYPD has no reach (when
> under the
> >? early years of Bloomberg, hundreds of teachers
> were hired
> >? from Europe and Africa because they had a better
> STEM
> >? Education than US College students who only got
> degrees in
> >? liberal arts and English Lit.)
> >? >
> >? > Since I was a NYC DOE Employee and a former
> NYPD Aux
> >? Police Officer, my finger prints will come out
> clear on any
> >? background searches based on those fingerprints
> alone. But
> >? if you throw in stupid websites like Spokeo and
> do an email
> >? background check - yeah - stupid shit from 20
> years ago,
> >?
> >? Spokeo cam up with this for my email address.
> >?
> >?
> >? We Found a Match!
> >?
> >?
> >? ?? Ruben Safir
> >?
> >? Get Full Results
>
> >? Online Profiles:
> >? 56+
> >? Photos & Videos:
> >? 238+
> >? Age:
> >? 24
> >? Gender:
> >? Male
> >?
> >? >?? false logins to websites you do not know
> about,
> >? porn sites you visited 15 years ago, all come up
> and that's
> >? not even should be allowed.
> >? >
> >? > But as community centers are concerned, you
> need a
> >? license from the NYC Dept. of Child Services
> (used to be
> >? Dept. of Youth Services) from the city, and
> depending on the
> >? scope and involvement of the program, you will
> need a state
> >? license (for programs that run as part of a
> summer day camp
> >? program, needs this the state license). Your
> staff needs a
> >? NYS Child Abuse Background check (done by the
> Dept. of Child
> >? Welfare). This is on top of the NYPD or DOE
> fingerprinting
> >? check. There are private agencies that will do
> the
> >? fingerprinting as well.
> >? >
> >? > Thing is this, if you are running it with a
> school, the
> >? DOE can either circumvent or replace NYC/NYS
> licenses and
> >? background checks, but the DOE has to do these
> things. But
> >? there are problems. School principals do not run
> the
> >? buildings, the custodial staff does. So events
> that has the
> >? school open on weekends and/or after school hours
> has to go
> >? through them. With a community center, many of
> them are open
> >? until 9pm or later (Mayor De Asshole sent funds
> for
> >? community centers to be open until midnight or
> 1am.) and on
> >? weekends. So this is something to look into.
> >? >
> >? > As I can tell, I have no medical appoints
> all of next
> >? week, so I'm free then for the most part. If I
> find it I'll
> >? bring my old license from my program years ago.
> >? >
> >? > ~Fernando
> >? >
> >? >
> --------------------------------------------
> >? > On Fri, 3/6/15, prmarino1-at-gmail.com
> >?
> >? wrote:
> >? >
> >? >?? Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community
> Funding
> >? >?? To: hangout-at-nylxs.com,
> >? hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >? >?? Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 1:21 AM
> >? >??
> >? >??
> >? >?? Yes
> >? >?? Rubin is right and I can answer many of
> these
> >? questions???
> >? >?? but not all off the top of my head however
> many
> >? of them are
> >? >?? too complex to answer but a single email
> and are
> >? far easier
> >? >?? to discuss.
> >? >??
> >? >?? One I can
> >? >?? answer as an example just to give you an
> idea of
> >? the
> >? >?? complexity involved is 2d.
> >? >??
> >? >?? Unless you have been previously
> background
> >? >?? checked by the DOE an???y one who directly
> works
> >? with the
> >? >?? kids if it is funded by the DOE will have
> to get
> >? s full FBI
> >? >?? fingerprint background check. That said
> and this
> >? is where it
> >? >?? gets complicated is if some one has been
> arrested
> >? in the
> >? >?? past it does not necessarily rule them
> out. But
> >? it is
> >? >?? something that if some one does have a
> criminal
> >? background
> >? >?? including things which are excluded from
> the
> >? requirements to
> >? >?? report merits a private conversation in
> advance;
> >? because it
> >? >?? is not uncommon for misdemeanors,
> dismissed
> >? cases, and even
> >? >?? sealed records to pop up on them because
> of a
> >? clerks mistake
> >? >?? so confidential and frank discussions of
> any
> >? criminal record
> >? >?? should be discussed. In most cases
> reporting
> >? thing which are
> >? >?? not required is favorable in comparison to
> them
> >? finding out
> >? >?? because of a clerks mistake. This is
> because if
> >? it's not
> >? >?? pertinent to the background check
> parameters and
> >? you
> >? >?? didn't report it and it pops up it raises
> >? questions, but
> >? >?? if you reported it that shows honesty
> which
> >? depending on the
> >? >?? nature of the incident may overshadow any
> past
> >? >?? indecressions.
> >? >?? The important thing is that
> >? >?? we know in advance so we can evaluate if
> we can
> >? put you
> >? >?? through the process without risk of
> hurting our
> >? reputation
> >? >?? as a group.
> >? >??
> >? >?? Sent from my
> >? >?? BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> >? >?? ?? Original
> >? >?? Message??
> >? >?? From: Ruben Safir
> >? >?? Sent:
> >? >?? Thursday, March 5, 2015 23:11
> >? >?? To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >? >?? Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >? >?? Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community
> >? >?? Funding
> >? >??
> >? >??
> >? >??
> >? >?? Good questions and as soon as
> >? >?? you come to a time and place to have a
> >? >?? meeting with Rafi, we can begin to answer
> these
> >? >?? questions.
> >? >??
> >? >?? Did you get his
> >? >?? email address?
> >? >??
> >? >?? Ruben
> >? >??
> >? >?? PS - Freilich Um Purim to you
> >? >?? as well!
> >? >??
> >? >??
> >? >?? On 03/05/2015 08:59 PM, Elfen Magix
> wrote:
> >? >?? > OK, lets start with the basics and
> >? >?? preliminaries:
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 1)
> >? >?? What kind of program are we starting?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 2a) Where is it going
> >? >?? to be housed?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 2b)
> >? >?? Is it a stand alone program or is it
> piggy
> >? backing somebody
> >? >?? else's center? Is the NYC DOE Schools
> involved?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 2c) Are we going to
> >? >?? need a license for it?
> >? >?? > If we are
> >? >?? dealing with children we might have too.
> >? >?? > If we are dealing with adults only
> then we
> >? >?? don't have too in the beginning.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? Teens are a iffy ground depending on their
> age.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 2d) Will we require
> >? >?? fingerprinting and background checks?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? Again, if we are dealing with children we
> might
> >? have too.
> >? >?? > If we are dealing with adults only
> then we
> >? >?? don't have too in the beginning.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? Teens are a iffy ground depending on their
> age.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 3a) What materials do
> >? >?? we need to bring in? vs. What materials
> are
> >? already being
> >? >?? supplied?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 3b) What
> >? >?? in terms of money are we going to require
> to
> >? start?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 4) What group of
> >? >?? people are we dealing with: rich, poor,
> ethnic
> >? minorities,
> >? >?? educationally handicapped, etc.?
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > 5) What boro will it be in? Not that
> it
> >? >?? matters, we just have to compensate for
> travel
> >? time.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > All this has to be
> >? >?? done first before one can apply for
> grants,
> >? stating that we
> >? >?? have the program going and people willing
> to
> >? attend, we need
> >? >?? the city/organization's funding help to
> get it
> >? going. At
> >? >?? least you/we can say that through we have
> NYXLS
> >? and we
> >? >?? helped out community centers in the past.
> We just
> >? need to
> >? >?? let it continue with the upkeep and
> progress of
> >? those we
> >? >?? helped. In that NYXLS can get funding for
> >? continued work.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > ~Fernando.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >
> >? >??
> --------------------------------------------
> >? >?? > On Thu, 3/5/15, Ruben Safir
> >? >?? wrote:
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > Subject:
> >? >?? Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >? >?? > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 5:46
> PM
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > On
> >? >?? > 03/05/2015 05:23
> >? >?? PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >? >?? > >
> >? >?? > one more to look at
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > > http://www.nyc.gov/html/ohcd/html/workforce/workforce_investment_board.shtml
> >? >?? > >
> >? >?? > > On
> >? >?? 03/05/2015 04:39
> >? >?? > PM, Ruben Safir
> >? >?? wrote:
> >? >?? > >> My
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? understanding is that this funding is
> >? administered
> >? >?? through
> >? >?? > the Boro
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >> Presidents Offices in
> >? >?? > NYC
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? > >> http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg1.html
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? > >> http://www.brighthubeducation.com/teaching-methods-tips/11105-basics-of-title-1-funds/
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? another
> >? >?? > program
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >> http://manhattanbp.nyc.gov/html/budget/community-grants.shtml
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? > >>
> >? >?? > >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at
> >? >?? 03:34:17PM
> >? >?? > -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >? >?? > >>> On
> >? >?? > Wed,
> >? >?? Mar 04, 2015 at 09:44:54AM -0800, Elfen
> Magix
> >? wrote:
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>>
> >? >?? > Parent education can
> >? >?? mean a lot of things. And a major
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? problem is
> >? >?? > >>>> actually
> >? >?? getting
> >? >?? > the parents involved in the
> >? >?? first place.
> >? >?? > >>> THIS is a
> >? >?? hustle, and Rafi at megazell-at-gmail.com
> >? >?? > KNOWS this huslte
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> very well
> >? >?? > and we, and
> >? >?? specifically YOU, can best learn to put
> all
> >? >?? > this
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? experience together to
> >? >?? > work this
> >? >?? hustle. This is not like the lottery.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> This has to be worked. He has
> a
> >? >?? > system that he goes to various PTA
> >? >?? > >>> meetings and pitches
> Linux
> >? >?? > educaiton straight to the parents
> and
> >? >?? they
> >? >?? > >>> can use their
> >? >?? distcrissionary
> >? >?? > spending to set up
> >? >?? programs for GNU/Linux
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? education.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>> That
> >? >?? > is
> >? >?? why I am wsay that we need to step out of
> the
> >? box, and
> >? >?? > learn a
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? technique to aquring
> >? >?? > the available
> >? >?? hunding, or a share of it. But it is
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> 100% a hustle. You have to
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? hustle parents, teachers, principles...
> and
> >? >?? > >>> you have to remain on
> it
> >? >?? through
> >? >?? > failures, through the next
> >? >?? failure,
> >? >?? > >>> until you
> >? >?? develope a string of
> >? >?? > successes.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> Rafi is gregarious,
> intelligent
> >? >?? > and willing to help up learn this
> >? >?? > >>> hustle, which is far
> more
> >? >?? than
> >? >?? > learning regulations and law, all
> >? >?? of
> >? >?? > >>> which we have studied
> >? >?? until being
> >? >?? > sick.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> Getting anyone over the
> age of
> >? >?? > 21 is problematic. Many assume that
> they
> >? >?? as
> >? >?? > >>>> a parent will do
> >? >?? best on their
> >? >?? > own and believe their
> >? >?? actions with
> >? >?? > >>>> the
> >? >?? family is what they
> >? >?? > require to do and
> >? >?? nothing more. So this
> >? >?? > >>>>
> >? >?? falls into several categories
> >? >?? > which I
> >? >?? only mention a couple:
> >? >?? > >>>>
> >? >?? Computer Literacy as a parent
> >? >?? > - do they
> >? >?? know what they children
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> are doing online? do they
> know
> >? >?? > that they are responsible for their
> >? >?? > >>>> child's actions? Do
> >? >?? thy
> >? >?? > know, in short, if their child
> >? >?? cyberbullies
> >? >?? > >>>> another,
> >? >?? that they can go to
> >? >?? > jail for their
> >? >?? child's actions? Can
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> they be sure that
> content
> >? >?? > their child is access is appropriate
> >? >?? for
> >? >?? > >>>> them? Many do not,
> >? >?? just as
> >? >?? > much do not care. The problem
> >? >?? comes up
> >? >?? > >>>> with this
> >? >?? fact - a mother
> >? >?? > would spend 10 minutes
> >? >?? a day with their
> >? >?? > >>>>
> >? >?? child, a father would spend 15
> >? >?? > minutes
> >? >?? a day. Is that time enough
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> for their child's needs?
> >? >?? > No it is not. But the TV gets 6 to 8
> >? >?? hours
> >? >?? > >>>> of
> >? >?? "parenting" the
> >? >?? > child. Today,
> >? >?? the TV has been replaced with the
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> computer and the
> Internet. 10
> >? >?? > - 15 minutes a day as a parent does
> >? >?? > >>>> not undo 6 - 8 hours
> with
> >? >?? the
> >? >?? > computer and internet does.
> >? >?? > >>> the
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? programs from the School, as far as i can
> >? understnad,
> >? >?? teach
> >? >?? > PARENT
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> themselves directly.
> >? >?? > Our
> >? >?? job is to sell a program acceptable to us
> to
> >? >?? > >>> which they want
> toparticipate
> >? >?? and
> >? >?? > then have thempresure the school
> >? >?? to
> >? >?? > >>> make the program
> >? >?? available.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> Parenting itself - Is
> what
> >? >?? > your learned from your parents in
> the
> >? >?? > >>>> 70s-2000's good
> >? >?? enough for
> >? >?? > you to do to you child? What
> >? >?? are the
> >? >?? > >>>> legalities of
> >? >?? your child's
> >? >?? > actions affect you?
> >? >?? What are your rights
> >? >?? > >>>>
> >? >?? as a parent? and so on.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> Like I said, getting the
> >? >?? > parents involved is a problem. Most
> >? >?? work
> >? >?? > >>>> and are too tired
> >? >?? do anything
> >? >?? > after work. Sometimes a
> >? >?? weekend
> >? >?? > >>>> program can
> >? >?? get a few more
> >? >?? > parents involved but it
> >? >?? wont all of
> >? >?? > >>>> them. At
> >? >?? best, maybe 10% of
> >? >?? > all the
> >? >?? children's parents would come
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> to an event.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > >>> I am
> >? >?? > not going to accept this negativism.
> rafi
> >? >?? gets parents to
> >? >?? > the
> >? >?? > >>> programs, and even
> without
> >? >?? > that, we will get parents to the
> >? >?? programs.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>> If we
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? got 10% that would be HUGE!!!
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > >>> We
> >? >?? > must, without question, get together
> and
> >? >?? learn this hustle
> >? >?? > and
> >? >?? > >>> network our resources.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > Schedule a meet up right
> >? >?? away.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>>
> >? >?? > The only time I had a
> >? >?? flood of parents is when I and
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> a friend did a CPR &
> >? >?? > HIV/AIDS Course, where the children
> over
> >? >?? 10
> >? >?? > >>>> were certified for
> >? >?? free, but
> >? >?? > parents paid $30, we gave a
> >? >?? poster
> >? >?? > >>>> letter about
> >? >?? this course
> >? >?? > stating, "When you
> >? >?? have heart attack,
> >? >?? > >>>> you
> >? >?? cant give CPR to
> >? >?? > yourself!" Out of
> >? >?? a possible 120 parents, 40
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>> showed up with their
> older
> >? >?? > kids and teens. By the end of the
> day,
> >? >?? > >>>> they were all CPR
> >? >?? certified,
> >? >?? > and we generated about $1200
> >? >?? or the
> >? >?? > >>>> program that
> >? >?? day.
> >? >?? > >>>> Parent Education
> >? >?? has to be
> >? >?? > defined by the program as
> >? >?? what? That
> >? >?? > >>>> depends on
> >? >?? the program. For
> >? >?? > us, that means
> >? >?? what?
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? ~Fernando
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >??
> -------------------------------------------- On
> >? Wed,
> >? >?? 3/4/15,
> >? >?? > Ruben
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> Safir
> >? >?? > wrote:
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > >>> Subject:
> >? >?? [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
> >? >?? > Community Funding To:
> >? >?? hangout-at-nylxs.com
> >? >?? > >>> Date: Wednesday, March
> 4,
> >? >?? 2015,
> >? >?? > 8:40 AM
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? Fernando
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>> Are you familiar with
> title
> >? >?? 1
> >? >?? > funding for community and parent
> >? >?? > >>> education?
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>> I
> >? >?? > had a bit of a
> >? >?? conversation with Megaz last night and I
> >? >?? > really
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? need to confir with
> >? >?? > you about funding
> >? >?? ideas and such.? This guy
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? has the whole hustle worked
> >? >?? > out.? Not
> >? >?? just details of programs,
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? but also proven methods to
> >? >?? > hustle
> >? >?? funding.
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? > >>> BTW - it seems we need
> a
> >? >?? social
> >? >?? > worker.
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
> >? >?? > >>> Ruben
> >? >?? > >>>
> >? >?? >
> >? >?? >>>
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> >? >?? >
> >? >?? > ~~~~~~~~~~~
> >? >?? > http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/html/community/rees-adult-education.shtml
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