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| DATE | 2015-03-06 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
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On 03/06/2015 03:04 PM, Elfen Magix wrote:
> How can I say this without being offensive? I can't. So... *Sneezes!* BULLSHIT!
>
> I have been part of the NYC Bd of Ed and later with the Dept. of Ed since 1984 and help create 2 charter schools, set up the Computer Literacy program it uses to this day, and told the Bd of Ed what it had to do to be up to par with the evolving technology including computerizing itself - back then! So this FBI fingerprinting story is Bullshit. The DOE does fingerprinting background checks with the City Marshall's office in conjunction with the NYPD. And for 99.99999% of all cases, it ends there. The FBI is used in cases of out of non-citizen employment, out of nation potential employees where NYPD has no reach (when under the early years of Bloomberg, hundreds of teachers were hired from Europe and Africa because they had a better STEM Education than US College students who only got degrees in liberal arts and English Lit.)
>
> Since I was a NYC DOE Employee and a former NYPD Aux Police Officer, my finger prints will come out clear on any background searches based on those fingerprints alone. But if you throw in stupid websites like Spokeo and do an email background check - yeah - stupid shit from 20 years ago,
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> false logins to websites you do not know about, porn sites you visited 15 years ago, all come up and that's not even should be allowed.
>
> But as community centers are concerned, you need a license from the NYC Dept. of Child Services (used to be Dept. of Youth Services) from the city, and depending on the scope and involvement of the program, you will need a state license (for programs that run as part of a summer day camp program, needs this the state license). Your staff needs a NYS Child Abuse Background check (done by the Dept. of Child Welfare). This is on top of the NYPD or DOE fingerprinting check. There are private agencies that will do the fingerprinting as well.
>
> Thing is this, if you are running it with a school, the DOE can either circumvent or replace NYC/NYS licenses and background checks, but the DOE has to do these things. But there are problems. School principals do not run the buildings, the custodial staff does. So events that has the school open on weekends and/or after school hours has to go through them. With a community center, many of them are open until 9pm or later (Mayor De Asshole sent funds for community centers to be open until midnight or 1am.) and on weekends. So this is something to look into.
>
> As I can tell, I have no medical appoints all of next week, so I'm free then for the most part. If I find it I'll bring my old license from my program years ago.
>
> ~Fernando
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 3/6/15, prmarino1-at-gmail.com wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2015, 1:21 AM
>
>
> Yes
> Rubin is right and I can answer many of these questions?
> but not all off the top of my head however many of them are
> too complex to answer but a single email and are far easier
> to discuss.
>
> One I can
> answer as an example just to give you an idea of the
> complexity involved is 2d.
>
> Unless you have been previously background
> checked by the DOE an?y one who directly works with the
> kids if it is funded by the DOE will have to get s full FBI
> fingerprint background check. That said and this is where it
> gets complicated is if some one has been arrested in the
> past it does not necessarily rule them out. But it is
> something that if some one does have a criminal background
> including things which are excluded from the requirements to
> report merits a private conversation in advance; because it
> is not uncommon for misdemeanors, dismissed cases, and even
> sealed records to pop up on them because of a clerks mistake
> so confidential and frank discussions of any criminal record
> should be discussed. In most cases reporting thing which are
> not required is favorable in comparison to them finding out
> because of a clerks mistake. This is because if it's not
> pertinent to the background check parameters and you
> didn't report it and it pops up it raises questions, but
> if you reported it that shows honesty which depending on the
> nature of the incident may overshadow any past
> indecressions.
> The important thing is that
> we know in advance so we can evaluate if we can put you
> through the process without risk of hurting our reputation
> as a group.
>
> Sent from my
> BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> Original
> Message
> From: Ruben Safir
> Sent:
> Thursday, March 5, 2015 23:11
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community
> Funding
>
>
>
> Good questions and as soon as
> you come to a time and place to have a
> meeting with Rafi, we can begin to answer these
> questions.
>
> Did you get his
> email address?
>
> Ruben
>
> PS - Freilich Um Purim to you
> as well!
>
>
> On 03/05/2015 08:59 PM, Elfen Magix wrote:
> > OK, lets start with the basics and
> preliminaries:
> >
> > 1)
> What kind of program are we starting?
> >
> > 2a) Where is it going
> to be housed?
> >
> > 2b)
> Is it a stand alone program or is it piggy backing somebody
> else's center? Is the NYC DOE Schools involved?
> >
> > 2c) Are we going to
> need a license for it?
> > If we are
> dealing with children we might have too.
> > If we are dealing with adults only then we
> don't have too in the beginning.
> >
> Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age.
> >
> > 2d) Will we require
> fingerprinting and background checks?
> >
> Again, if we are dealing with children we might have too.
> > If we are dealing with adults only then we
> don't have too in the beginning.
> >
> Teens are a iffy ground depending on their age.
> >
> > 3a) What materials do
> we need to bring in? vs. What materials are already being
> supplied?
> >
> > 3b) What
> in terms of money are we going to require to start?
> >
> > 4) What group of
> people are we dealing with: rich, poor, ethnic minorities,
> educationally handicapped, etc.?
> >
> > 5) What boro will it be in? Not that it
> matters, we just have to compensate for travel time.
> >
> > All this has to be
> done first before one can apply for grants, stating that we
> have the program going and people willing to attend, we need
> the city/organization's funding help to get it going. At
> least you/we can say that through we have NYXLS and we
> helped out community centers in the past. We just need to
> let it continue with the upkeep and progress of those we
> helped. In that NYXLS can get funding for continued work.
> >
> > ~Fernando.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 3/5/15, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> >
> > Subject:
> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Funding
> >
> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 5:46 PM
> >
> >
> > On
> > 03/05/2015 05:23
> PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >
> > one more to look at
> >
> >
> > > http://www.nyc.gov/html/ohcd/html/workforce/workforce_investment_board.shtml
> > >
> > > On
> 03/05/2015 04:39
> > PM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >> My
> >
> understanding is that this funding is administered
> through
> > the Boro
> >
> >> Presidents Offices in
> > NYC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www2.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/pg1.html
> > >>
> > >> http://www.brighthubeducation.com/teaching-methods-tips/11105-basics-of-title-1-funds/
> > >>
> > >>
> another
> > program
> >
> >> http://manhattanbp.nyc.gov/html/budget/community-grants.shtml
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at
> 03:34:17PM
> > -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >>> On
> > Wed,
> Mar 04, 2015 at 09:44:54AM -0800, Elfen Magix wrote:
> > >>>
> >
> >>>>
> > Parent education can
> mean a lot of things. And a major
> >
> problem is
> > >>>> actually
> getting
> > the parents involved in the
> first place.
> > >>> THIS is a
> hustle, and Rafi at megazell-at-gmail.com
> > KNOWS this huslte
> >
> >>> very well
> > and we, and
> specifically YOU, can best learn to put all
> > this
> > >>>
> experience together to
> > work this
> hustle. This is not like the lottery.
> >
> >>> This has to be worked. He has a
> > system that he goes to various PTA
> > >>> meetings and pitches Linux
> > educaiton straight to the parents and
> they
> > >>> can use their
> distcrissionary
> > spending to set up
> programs for GNU/Linux
> > >>>
> education.
> > >>>
> > >>> That
> > is
> why I am wsay that we need to step out of the box, and
> > learn a
> > >>>
> technique to aquring
> > the available
> hunding, or a share of it. But it is
> >
> >>> 100% a hustle. You have to
> >
> hustle parents, teachers, principles... and
> > >>> you have to remain on it
> through
> > failures, through the next
> failure,
> > >>> until you
> develope a string of
> > successes.
> > >>>
> >
> >>> Rafi is gregarious, intelligent
> > and willing to help up learn this
> > >>> hustle, which is far more
> than
> > learning regulations and law, all
> of
> > >>> which we have studied
> until being
> > sick.
> >
> >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >>>> Getting anyone over the age of
> > 21 is problematic. Many assume that they
> as
> > >>>> a parent will do
> best on their
> > own and believe their
> actions with
> > >>>> the
> family is what they
> > require to do and
> nothing more. So this
> > >>>>
> falls into several categories
> > which I
> only mention a couple:
> > >>>>
> Computer Literacy as a parent
> > - do they
> know what they children
> >
> >>>> are doing online? do they know
> > that they are responsible for their
> > >>>> child's actions? Do
> thy
> > know, in short, if their child
> cyberbullies
> > >>>> another,
> that they can go to
> > jail for their
> child's actions? Can
> >
> >>>> they be sure that content
> > their child is access is appropriate
> for
> > >>>> them? Many do not,
> just as
> > much do not care. The problem
> comes up
> > >>>> with this
> fact - a mother
> > would spend 10 minutes
> a day with their
> > >>>>
> child, a father would spend 15
> > minutes
> a day. Is that time enough
> >
> >>>> for their child's needs?
> > No it is not. But the TV gets 6 to 8
> hours
> > >>>> of
> "parenting" the
> > child. Today,
> the TV has been replaced with the
> >
> >>>> computer and the Internet. 10
> > - 15 minutes a day as a parent does
> > >>>> not undo 6 - 8 hours with
> the
> > computer and internet does.
> > >>> the
> >
> programs from the School, as far as i can understnad,
> teach
> > PARENT
> >
> >>> themselves directly.
> > Our
> job is to sell a program acceptable to us to
> > >>> which they want toparticipate
> and
> > then have thempresure the school
> to
> > >>> make the program
> available.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >>>> Parenting itself - Is what
> > your learned from your parents in the
> > >>>> 70s-2000's good
> enough for
> > you to do to you child? What
> are the
> > >>>> legalities of
> your child's
> > actions affect you?
> What are your rights
> > >>>>
> as a parent? and so on.
> >
> >>>> Like I said, getting the
> > parents involved is a problem. Most
> work
> > >>>> and are too tired
> do anything
> > after work. Sometimes a
> weekend
> > >>>> program can
> get a few more
> > parents involved but it
> wont all of
> > >>>> them. At
> best, maybe 10% of
> > all the
> children's parents would come
> >
> >>>> to an event.
> >
> >>>
> > >>> I am
> > not going to accept this negativism. rafi
> gets parents to
> > the
> > >>> programs, and even without
> > that, we will get parents to the
> programs.
> > >>>
> > >>> If we
> >
> got 10% that would be HUGE!!!
> >
> >>>
> > >>> We
> > must, without question, get together and
> learn this hustle
> > and
> > >>> network our resources.
> > >>>
> >
> >>>
> > Schedule a meet up right
> away.
> > >>>
> >
> >>>>
> > The only time I had a
> flood of parents is when I and
> >
> >>>> a friend did a CPR &
> > HIV/AIDS Course, where the children over
> 10
> > >>>> were certified for
> free, but
> > parents paid $30, we gave a
> poster
> > >>>> letter about
> this course
> > stating, "When you
> have heart attack,
> > >>>> you
> cant give CPR to
> > yourself!" Out of
> a possible 120 parents, 40
> >
> >>>> showed up with their older
> > kids and teens. By the end of the day,
> > >>>> they were all CPR
> certified,
> > and we generated about $1200
> or the
> > >>>> program that
> day.
> > >>>> Parent Education
> has to be
> > defined by the program as
> what? That
> > >>>> depends on
> the program. For
> > us, that means
> what?
> > >>>
> >
> ~Fernando
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> -------------------------------------------- On Wed,
> 3/4/15,
> > Ruben
> >
> >>> Safir
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>
> > >>> Subject:
> [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
> > Community Funding To:
> hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > >>> Date: Wednesday, March 4,
> 2015,
> > 8:40 AM
> >
> >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> Fernando
> > >>>
> > >>> Are you familiar with title
> 1
> > funding for community and parent
> > >>> education?
> > >>>
> >
> >>> I
> > had a bit of a
> conversation with Megaz last night and I
> > really
> > >>>
> need to confir with
> > you about funding
> ideas and such.? This guy
> > >>>
> has the whole hustle worked
> > out.? Not
> just details of programs,
> > >>>
> but also proven methods to
> > hustle
> funding.
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW - it seems we need a
> social
> > worker.
> >
> >>>
> > >>> Ruben
> > >>>
> >
> >>>
> > >
> >
>
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/html/community/rees-adult-education.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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