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| DATE | 2015-02-11 |
| FROM | Paul Robert Marino
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can emulate
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Well DAAAA this is the school district I used to work back in
2001-2005 for they manage Alternative High schools, Outreach schools
(GED prep program), Adult Education programs, the Rikers Island
school, and the VTC schools.
I'm not sure how they are these days since the continual restructure
but traditionally they have always been GPL friendly. In general there
are only three things they care about when it comes to technology
1) will it benefit my students
2) is it practical to teach this in my school
3) is there a recognized certification test I can give my students at the end.
Keep in mind these are also the people who got me a one on one meeting
with the person in charge of approving new curriculum city wide to
discuss teaching GNU Linux 1.
What it came down to was there needs to be a 3rd party accredited test
at the (the FSF was going to provide that) and there needed to be at
least 1 college teaching the course.
This is also the school district where I worked with a math teacher to
create a curriculum for and assisted with teaching the first semester
of an Applied Mathematics in Perl class.
I also use to teach classes for teachers durring the summer at the
district superintendents offices on Red Hat and SuSE. the first week
they would learn to build a linux server with Samba, CUPS, Apache, and
a few other pieces of software developed by people who worked in
various schools in the district. The second week we would split the
class up into teams I would go with one and District technicians I had
previously trained would go with the other teams in case they got
stuck on something. Each team would send a day in each of their school
and the members of the team rip out their old windows server and
replace them with their new Linux servers they had built in the class.
It was really cool to see that many windows servers replaced by Linux
servers in one shot like that because back in 2001 you didnt see that
kind of thing too often. By the way these were full 9am to 5pm classes
not just a few ours a day, so when the teachers finished the class
they knew every thing they needed to know to maintain their servers. I
only got a question once from one of them 6 years latter after a power
failure and drained ups battery one of them called me and said his
root partition wouldn't mount and he knew he had to run a command
starting with the letters fs but he couldn't quite remember because
that was the first time the box had ever rebooted since it was
installed.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> So, Fernando, we are meeting on Thursday 17th at CCNY to folow up on
> this? Please
>
> Tuesday, February 17, 2015
> 6:00 PM
>
> CCNY -at- NAC 1/211
> 138th and Amsterdam Avenue
> New York, NY
>
> Directions
>
>
> On 02/11/2015 09:18 AM, MegaZell wrote:
>> Sure . Sounds good.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 02/10/2015 07:17 PM, Elfen Magix wrote:
>>>> Seeing the PDF, I see a major problem - its it stupid NYC Dept. of
>>> Education courses that I developed in the mid/late 1980s and all those
>>> bastages took it and took credit for my work.
>>>> In short, the mayor does not want community centers to be giving out
>>> technology courses without some sort of give to a school. It was bad when I
>>> left it, it is worse now. But to make how, this is what we need:
>>>> 1) Location with machines.
>>>> 2) Courses and course material.
>>>> 3) something they can take home like projects, and a certificate which
>>> they can use for getting a so-called job.
>>>> Thus Linux or not, the courses need to be:
>>>>
>>>> - Hardware setup and implementation
>>>> - System Diagnostics and Repair
>>>> - Security of systems (personal and servers)
>>>> - Internet technology and programming
>>>>
>>>> Then we can go into:
>>>> - Robotics (Arduino hardware)
>>>> - Robotics (Raspberry Pi hardware)
>>>>
>>>> Though the Raspberry Pi is Linux on an ARM processor, it is 5X more
>>> expensive than the Arduino Amtel Microcontroller. Ebay has the R-Pi for
>>> $40, and the Arduino (Chinese Clones) for $8. And the Raspberry Pi needs
>>> other components to make it run, the Ardunio does not - outside of the
>>> additional pieces (not counting wires, breadboards, servoes, batteries,
>>> etc.). For a class of 20 students this would require $600 in hardware.
>>>> http://www.raspberrypi.org
>>>>
>>>> http://www.arduino.cc
>>>>
>>>> ~Fernando
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> (From email error with headers)
>>>>
>>>> What hackers meeting?
>>>>
>>>> What is his program? Where is his program?
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing community based computer training since the
>>>> 1980s, but it is now that those in control want their palms greased and
>>>> their names recognized as founders when they did nothing, is what is
>>> stopping
>>>> me. The whole shit is corrupt.
>>>>
>>>> But if anyone want to start one, find me and we can sit down
>>>> to discuss the details of what is involved and how much is costs.
>>>>
>>>> When and where is the next meeting?
>>> How about meeting on Tuesday the 17th at the Hackers Meeting at CCNY and
>>> we can talk about this.
>>>
>>> Then I need another meeting for the Journal, but I hope to get that one
>>> in on a Sunday during the daytime.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> You're confirmed!
>>>
>>> NYLUG Open hacker hours
>>> http://www.meetup.com/nylug-meetings/events/220442745/t/co1.1_grp/?rv=co1.1
>>>
>>>
>>> Ruben
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Event details
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Tuesday, February 17, 2015
>>> 6:00 PM
>>>
>>> CCNY -at- NAC 1/211
>>> 138th and Amsterdam Avenue
>>> New York, NY
>>>
>>> Directions
>>>
>>> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=138th+and+Amsterdam+Avenue%2C+New+York%2C+NY%2C+us
>>>
>>> Post Comment
>>>
>>> http://www.meetup.com/__ms2649445/nylug-meetings/events/220442745/t/co1.1_sp1/?new_comment=1&_af_eid=220442745&_af=event&expires=1423793491347&sig=98a52d9a6212d7c7f98320934b41a5cbd98515fc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ruben
>>>> ~Fernando.
>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>> On Sun, 2/8/15, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Community Based Education Programs we can
>>> emulate
>>>>>> To: "hangout"
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2015, 8:28 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran into this guy at the hackers meeting and he has a working
>>> program
>>>>>> in the Bronx that is getting education and employment to
>>> participants,
>>>>>> and he is teaching GNU classes (not the list in the PDF attachment).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to see how we can emulate this since it brings in income
>>> and is
>>>>>> successful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruben
>>>
>>
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