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DATE | 2014-12-01 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [hellekin@dyne.org: Re: [Dng] fraud warning]
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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:33:02 -0300 From: hellekin To: dng-at-lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] fraud warning User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.2.0
Hello mister Safir,
Are you the Ruben Safir that is "Trying to save lives and make people better"?
Let me tell you that you're not doing it right. First, you should do your homework, like I did, and use a search engine to retrieve information about the people you're willing to address. That way you can treat them as humans, and better, as equals, instead of attacking them and defaming them right away. You could have started with "Hello list, I'm a little concerned that..."
As jaromil told you in his first reply, the Dyne Foundation is a registered entity, and if you had simply looked it up, you could have seen that it's registered in Amsterdam, the capital of The Netherlands, a small country in Western Europe that is recognized as an independent State by the United States of America, and part of the United Nations. Therefore, there is nothing shady about this organization. If that is not enough, it's an officialy recognized Research Center by the European Union. And in case govern-mental institutions are not to your taste, it is one of the very few organizations that is recognized by the FSF and listed with Dyne:bolic on the free GNU/Linux distributions list of the GNU project.
I will leave it as an exercise to the reader to find the original URLs to prove what I just said, in the spirit of self-empowerment and freedom of information.
As you appear to be--there's not signature demonstrating it, and you could be the victim of a very bad taste of a prank--a security engineer, you could have looked up the people's web of trust on the GnuPG network to find out that your aggressive, and frankly embarrassing attempt at radical derogatory inflaming of old farts was not only unnecessary, but make you look as ridiculous as you can be.
Nevertheless, this project is not a project of the Dyne Foundation, but the result of the emergence of a need perceived by an informal network of Debian users, sysadmins, developers, etc. who gathered spontaneously around the idea of keeping freedom of choice inside the beloved Debian project. Dyne is simply providing support for it as it happens to share the original community. I didn't bother to ask him yet, but I'm sure RMS would appreciate that users organize themselves around the need to protect their computing freedom.
Now if you please, get back with constructive criticism, and if you don't I will feel compelled to classify you as one of the infamous disruptive agents sent by the secret services of your country to disrupt and deceive the free software community, and therefore lower the reputation of all the people who associate with you and put you to /dev/null.
Thank you for your attention,
== hk
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