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DATE | 2014-09-15 |
FROM | From: "Paul Robert Marino"
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Sep 15 17:37:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id AB413161155; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 9BBAF161157; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from mail-pd0-f174.google.com (mail-pd0-f174.google.com [209.85.192.174]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9305161155 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id v10so7117705pde.5 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=RdlkNdrHCDt3IpwfD/5gdtO1FXtjXTnLFj9W+vCq69o=; b=Ctp+wVNWhn/Lr6dR9oNpRr1zJMzj9wN+C+zDTGiuqigqoi3GxFazWK5RR2ik4otxPS t31OehPsbGPju1l1T9rShaNOJr3z1gm5YthK8O0cHyjRTYonwYMcgoaap3EDSH/8MQES cHccjL4tBNFAU1aD5zIxJeoy/ohNMrxq63gJQ+DV2sumgcPwlis9tlxiWJWcjZOR8vyn zNtcDlpg8jyPsnuzOZHrViw+5iNWsyUOWuaaGs9rxzxlTUieKEKXe98Gmxt3i55OVEHI 13Q+MFr7GCCQ7AZn6kcNUaEJK98jAJjA3R2gMfE7aMq6yjiPJOQgkHBskk2tdX82Ma0c xiZQ== X-Received: by 10.68.241.138 with SMTP id wi10mr16946435pbc.126.1410817021184; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.palm.com ([172.56.33.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mi4sm12217598pdb.80.2014.09.15.14.36.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54175bfc.847c460a.20f5.1f3f-at-mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:36:58 -0400 From: "Paul Robert Marino" To: Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips In-Reply-To: <541741CA.1060806-at-panix.com> X-Mailer: Palm webOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Alternative_=_Boundary_=_1410817016" Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Wow did I start a flame war lol
Here is some clarification
1)= the standard Red Hat packages do include mod_rewrite and so do SuSE's. Thi= s is a Rubin over tweaking problem much like the fact that his copy mutt do= esn't support HTML emails because he purposely broke it support for them :-= ). Love you Rubin lol.
2) you can independently compile apache modul= es without recompiling all of Apache since the release of Apache 2.0 all yo= u need is the development libraries installed and the source code of the mo= dule. That was one of the key cool new features in Apache 2.
On = a side note mod_rewrite always makes me nostalgic because its one of the fe= w modules in Apache 2 that still uses the Apache 1.x syntax. The Apache 1 s= yntax reminds me of the 90's when I was foolish greenhorn junior SA because= I made the foolish mistake of memorizing the syntax thinking it would neve= r change LOL. When Apache 2 came out I vowed to never make that mistake aga= in.
pan>nt-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3 n style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "> =3D"left" style=3D"width:75%">On Sep 15, 2014 3:44 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbr= klyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On 09/15/2014 03:24 PM, Chris Knad= le wrote:=0D > Nobody is good enough to make their own package "cold"= ; there's work going on =0D > within Debian to try to get to the poin= t where this is possible for /simple/ =0D > packages, but for non-tri= vial packages I don't know anybody that could start =0D > from scratc= h and make a good package. =0D =0D =0D I'm trying to fix something= that I can GUARANTEE you that the debian=0D package=0D developers wo= uldn't know their ass from their elbows deep into the code of=0D modperl= and your prostylizing me utter bullshit, Chris.=0D =0D I will never = use a Mac because their shit is Broken=0D I will never use Debian becaus= e their shit is broken=0D =0D So now you can tell someone else how gr= eat debian is.=0D =0D =0D And yes Chris, if I wasn't lazy, I would= set my apache configuration in=0D my own package, like many other sysad= mins so. But apache's core=0D packaging is=0D so good and so flexibl= e, that I don't see the point.=0D =0D I need to know how to hand off = a perlresponsehandler modperl module to=0D the apache=0D indexes modu= le because a simple decline doesn't pick up the fancy indexing=0D in the= apache response cycle. Traditionally modperl guys get around this=0D p= roblem by attaching their scripts to <file *html></file> in htt= pd.conf=0D I need this to work on the entire directory tree without losi= ng fancy=0D indexing.=0D =0D That is what I need to KNOW. If you = know that answer, fine. If you=0D don't then=0D don't blow smoke at = me.=0D =0D =0D Finally, I sent that article out because I thought = it had some good and=0D valid information=0D in it on securing your w= ebserver through apache rewrite.=0D =0D Ruben=0D =0D
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Wow did I start a flame war lol
Here is some clarification
1)= the standard Red Hat packages do include mod_rewrite and so do SuSE's. Thi= s is a Rubin over tweaking problem much like the fact that his copy mutt do= esn't support HTML emails because he purposely broke it support for them :-= ). Love you Rubin lol.
2) you can independently compile apache modul= es without recompiling all of Apache since the release of Apache 2.0 all yo= u need is the development libraries installed and the source code of the mo= dule. That was one of the key cool new features in Apache 2.
On = a side note mod_rewrite always makes me nostalgic because its one of the fe= w modules in Apache 2 that still uses the Apache 1.x syntax. The Apache 1 s= yntax reminds me of the 90's when I was foolish greenhorn junior SA because= I made the foolish mistake of memorizing the syntax thinking it would neve= r change LOL. When Apache 2 came out I vowed to never make that mistake aga= in.
pan>nt-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3 n style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "> =3D"left" style=3D"width:75%">On Sep 15, 2014 3:44 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbr= klyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On 09/15/2014 03:24 PM, Chris Knad= le wrote:=0D > Nobody is good enough to make their own package "cold"= ; there's work going on =0D > within Debian to try to get to the poin= t where this is possible for /simple/ =0D > packages, but for non-tri= vial packages I don't know anybody that could start =0D > from scratc= h and make a good package. =0D =0D =0D I'm trying to fix something= that I can GUARANTEE you that the debian=0D package=0D developers wo= uldn't know their ass from their elbows deep into the code of=0D modperl= and your prostylizing me utter bullshit, Chris.=0D =0D I will never = use a Mac because their shit is Broken=0D I will never use Debian becaus= e their shit is broken=0D =0D So now you can tell someone else how gr= eat debian is.=0D =0D =0D And yes Chris, if I wasn't lazy, I would= set my apache configuration in=0D my own package, like many other sysad= mins so. But apache's core=0D packaging is=0D so good and so flexibl= e, that I don't see the point.=0D =0D I need to know how to hand off = a perlresponsehandler modperl module to=0D the apache=0D indexes modu= le because a simple decline doesn't pick up the fancy indexing=0D in the= apache response cycle. Traditionally modperl guys get around this=0D p= roblem by attaching their scripts to <file *html></file> in htt= pd.conf=0D I need this to work on the entire directory tree without losi= ng fancy=0D indexing.=0D =0D That is what I need to KNOW. If you = know that answer, fine. If you=0D don't then=0D don't blow smoke at = me.=0D =0D =0D Finally, I sent that article out because I thought = it had some good and=0D valid information=0D in it on securing your w= ebserver through apache rewrite.=0D =0D Ruben=0D =0D
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