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DATE | 2014-02-27 |
FROM | From: "Redpill"
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SUBJECT | RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] affordable healthcare scam
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http://www.kaiserthrive.org/kaiser-permanente-history/ Transcript of taped conversation between President Richard Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman (1971) that led to the HMO act of 1973:
John D. Ehrlichman: "On the . on the health business ."
President Nixon: "Yeah."
Ehrlichman: ". we have now narrowed down the vice president's problems on this thing to one issue and that is whether we should include these health maintenance organizations like Edgar Kaiser's Permanente thing. The vice president just cannot see it. We tried 15 ways from Friday to explain it to him and then help him to understand it. He finally says, 'Well, I don't think they'll work, but if the President thinks it's a good idea, I'll support him a hundred percent.'"
President Nixon: "Well, what's . what's the judgment?"
Ehrlichman: "Well, everybody else's judgment very strongly is that we go with it."
President Nixon: "All right."
Ehrlichman: "And, uh, uh, he's the one holdout that we have in the whole office."
President Nixon: "Say that I . I . I'd tell him I have doubts about it, but I think that it's, uh, now let me ask you, now you give me your judgment. You know I'm not to keen on any of these damn medical programs."
Ehrlichman: "This, uh, let me, let me tell you how I am ."
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: "This . this is a ."
President Nixon: "I don't [unclear] ."
Ehrlichman: ". private enterprise one."
President Nixon: "Well, that appeals to me."
Ehrlichman: "Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can . the reason he can do it . I had Edgar Kaiser come in . talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because ."
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: ". the less care they give them, the more money they make."
President Nixon: "Fine." [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: [Unclear] ". and the incentives run the right way."
President Nixon: "Not bad."
*The preceding transcript is from the University of Virginia for the clearest possible presentation (pathway discovered by Vickie Travis). Check - February 17, 1971, 5:26 pm - 5:53 pm, Oval Office Conversation 450-23. Look for: tape rmn_e450c.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com [mailto:owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 1:27 PM To: NYLXS Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] affordable healthcare scam
Since everyone is so chattery I might as well rant about this new Healthcare act
In its totlity, there has NEVER EVER been such a huge scam ever foisted on the public as this total bullshit scam. I'm watching this from both side of the business and they steal every penny and give back ZIPPO
Ruben
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