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Sorry nothing any one posts on the internet is private period. This is something I drilled in to my kids when I worked for the NYC School system. Posting on the internet is legally the same thing as publishing there for should have the same protections as any other form of free speech but privacy is not one of those guaranties. if you want privacy encrypt your data and send it directly to the parties involved, because thats the only way you can reasonably and or legally expect privacy for your internet communications. By the way I also made my students sign contracts stating that any thing they used the school computers for was monitored and could be used by the school in any way. Occasionally I post some of their AOL instant messenger conversations on bulletin boards in the hall way to prove the point. When ever they would complain about it I would show them the contract they signed. they would usually argue that that didn't give me the right to monitor their AIM conversations and I would point out they were using the schools computer and the schools internet connection so that gave the school the right to set what ever policies they want about the privacy of the data passing through it as long as it didn't violate any NYC or NY state laws, and the same is true for AOL and their AIM servers; however you may not know it when AOL shares you data. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > It doesn't bother as much that people are arrested in this fashion as > much as that there is a debate that such action by the police is wrong. > > http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2013/jul/22/nypd-arrests-queens-man-facebook-posts-after-zimmerman-verdict/ > > Where did we go wrong that people accdept the idea that the public > should be under 24/7 survalence? > > Ruben 2013-07-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Wished you were there... 2013-07-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] video miracles 2013-07-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [group-digests-at-linkedin.com: The OU Job Board will be running a 2013-07-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bad day at the office 2013-07-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Digital Revolution Stage II 2013-07-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] charter fishing 2013-07-14 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Digital Revolution Stage II 2013-07-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] getting a college education 2013-07-15 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dell Add-in cards for Workstations and Dell Dimension PCs 2013-07-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dell Add-in cards for Workstations and Dell 2013-07-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dell Add-in cards for Workstations and Dell 2013-07-16 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dell Add-in cards for Workstations and Dell Dimension PCs 2013-07-16 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dell Add-in cards for Workstations and Dell Dimension PCs 2013-07-17 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Weird Linux network question 2013-07-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Weird Linux network question 2013-07-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] all your phones be mine 2013-07-21 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] all your phones be mine 2013-07-21 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] all your phones be mine 2013-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Big Brother is Watching You 2013-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lt Gov caught getting blown by secretary at 100MPH by black box 2013-07-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] linux in government 2013-07-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] open everything 2013-07-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Jobs 2013-07-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Attempt Patent the World Wide Web - win $100mil 2013-07-24 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] wall street 2013-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Gnome Blow up 2013-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Prying Eyes 2013-07-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] death by iphone 2013-07-26 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] death by iphone 2013-07-26 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] death by iphone 2013-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cure Suicide Now - More Coffee 2013-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] career moves 2013-07-29 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] career moves 2013-07-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] career moves 2013-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] career moves 2013-07-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] career moves 2013-07-31 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Jobs 2013-07-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Jobs 2013-07-31 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Big Brother is Watching You NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! 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