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| DATE | 2013-06-10 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 06:45:24PM -0400, einker wrote:
> I'm getting' misty over all this Flame War behavior ... Almost makes me
> miss Jay
> I say almost
>
No flame war. Paul just has a broken mailer on his pre phone and thinks
that is just OK.
His mailer has trouble with the ABCs and needs crayola colors to decorate
his text. It is still broken. Paul has been brainwashed to think it is
ok to email msdoc files and whatever instead of text. There is no
winning this. I kindly asked him to send text so i can read it and so
that the mailing list can be properly indexed and searched.
If he doesn't want to, I'll ask again. I might even automate it
eventually. I assumed he was doing this on accident. It never occured
to me that our Paul, our beloved Paul Robert Marino, would think that
y2k compliance has to do with sending web documents through email, and
other redicules crap that makes it hard to read and to work with.
Paul also thinks that I'm interested in getting into a long debate on
mutts facilities and the multiple problems with reading regurgitated
crap from, BTW nonstandard, thml, and msdoc files.
But Paul is wrong. I asume paul is already aware of all these problems,
but he is just too lazy to turn off the formater sending thingie he has.
Regardless.
Right now I two kinds of users who email in gibberish formats: 1) Spammers,
and 2) Paul.
One way or the other, soon there will be only one of the two, and
unfortunately, my money is on the spammers :(
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>
> > Ah ha so you admit it you're just being difficult for the sake of being
> > difficult. You purposely disabled the support for HTML messages in mutt.
> > Well that's your own fault not mine! Just for that I will make all my
> > messages on hang out HTML as a protest till you accept the fact that its
> > not the 80s any more and you're just going to have to deal with it.
> >
> > By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of this good old
> > fashion flame war goodness.
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Sent from my HP Pre3
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > On Jun 10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > > Oh wait mutt does support HTML body in emails via lynx or your choice
> > > of other console based browsers you just don't have it configured!
> > >
> > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75
> >
> >
> > Don't be so naive Robert. I disabled it a long time ago
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Marino
> > > wrote:
> > > > Rubin
> > > > huh?
> > > > who cares if the content is "plain text" as long as it renders that
> > > > way on the console.
> > > > lynx is a console web browser no X11 required, and it works well over
> > > > ssh so I don't get your point.
> > > > lynx is not a new piece software its been around for a long time as a
> > > > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 1992, so
> > > > none of this is new or even a radical concept.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir
> > wrote:
> > > >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > > >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir
> > wrote:
> > > >>> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
> > wrote:
> > > >>> >> Rubin
> > > >>> >> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K please...
> > :-)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > the last mutt release was 2010. It works fine. You can read
> > everything
> > > >>> > I send you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Really then why cant it do some thing smart like recognize the mime
> > > >>> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C libraries for
> > > >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correctly?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> because then it wouldn't be plain text.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of unformated binary data as email.
> > > >>> > I'm not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want your
> > email
> > > >>> > read, it needs to be plain text, and why in your right mind would
> > you
> > > >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that my mutt email reader
> > > >>> > which I SSH to a terminal from, has problems. Your sending
> > unproperly
> > > >>> > formated emails.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> HTML=! Binary
> > > >>>
> > > >>> HTML =~ Well Formatted
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Don't blame others or HTML because your email client of choice is
> > one
> > > >>> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt RFC compliant
> > > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> > > >>> "
> > > >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> > > >>> (MIME) Part One:
> > > >>> Format of Internet Message Bodies
> > > >>> "
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you
> > the
> > > >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the standard since 1997
> > have
> > > >>> been the addition of internationalization headers in 2008 and a
> > > >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > It does hell to the database as well.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filter can be defeated by HTML in
> > > >>> this day and age its got some serious problems.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client can read them so why
> > can't
> > > >>> >> yours.
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as though I'm GPG encrypting my
> > emails which
> > > >>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP Touch Pad.
> > > >>> >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the
> > video card
> > > >>> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> > > >>> >> I looked in to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones I
> > wanted to be
> > > >>> >> able to updated the OS and apps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> There are some updates in the community app store but since the
> > platform is
> > > >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.
> > Some apps
> > > >>> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but not many.
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir
> > wrote:
> > > >>> >>
> > > >>> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
> > wrote:
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand held thingie?
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> > http://www.mutt.org/
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> > > Rubin
get an email client which has been updated
> > since Y2K
> > > >>> >> > please... :-)
Seriously Netscape communicators mail
> > client can
> > > >>> >> > read them so why can't yours.
Its mime encoded
> > HTML its
> > > >>> >> > not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which oddly I
> > have seen
> > > >>> >> > people do on mailing lists before.
> > style="font-family:Prelude,
> > > >>> >> > Verdana, san-serif;">
> > > >>> >> > style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color:
> > #999999;">--
> > > >>> >> > Sent from my HP Pre3
> > > >>> >> > style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
> > > >>> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun
> > 09, 2013 at
> > > >>> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > > >>> >> >
> By the way Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP
> > Touch
> > > >>> >> > Pad.<br>You
> > > >>> >> >
can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the
> > video
> > > >>> >> >
card needs proprietary
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
I really can not read this. :(
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
drivers.<br>I looked in to it a while ago
> > > >>> >> >
and while I love Palm phones I wanted to be able to updated
> > the OS
> > > >>> >> >
and apps on my Pre 3 and found I
> > couldn't.<br><br>There
> > > >>> >> > are some
> > > >>> >> >
updates in the community app store but since the platform
> > is mostly
> > > >>> >> >
dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.
> > Some apps
> > > >>> >> >
are being developed on open webOS 1.x but not
> > many.<br><span
> > > >>> >> >
style="font-family:Prelude, Verdana,
> > > >>> >> > san-serif;"><br><br></span><span
> > > >>> >> >
id="signature"><div style="font-family: arial,
> > sans-serif;
> > > >>> >> > font-size:
> > > >>> >> >
12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP
> > > >>> >> > Pre3</div><br></span><span
> > > >>> >> >
style="color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;
> > "><hr
> > > >>> >> >
align="left" style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM,
> > Ruben Safir
> > > >>> >> >
<mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
> > > >>> >> > <br><br></span>On Sun, Jun 09,
> > > >>> >> >
2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes
> > wrote:<br>> On Jun
> > > >>> >> > 9,
> > > >>> >> >
2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>
> >
> > > >>> >> >
wrote:<br><br><br>On this mailing list is
> > one of the
> > > >>> >> > great hardware
> > > >>> >> >
people in the tristate<br>area and he is just
> > like.... listening
> > > >>> >> >
without ever typing
> > :)<br><br><br>>
> > > >>> >> > ><br>> ><br>>
> > > >>> >> >
> It is on a card<br>>
> > ><br>>
> > > >>> >> > ><br>>
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> > http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>>>>
> > > >>> >> > ;
> > > >>> >> >
><br>> ><br>>
> > > >>> >> > <br>> That'll make replacing the card
> > > >>> >> >
easy, then.<br>> <br>> Now if you
> > can find
> > > >>> >> > somewhere that
> > > >>> >> >
has replacement parts in stock, then all<br>>
> > that's
> > > >>> >> > needed is
> > > >>> >> >
a little transplant surgery.<br>>
> > <br>>
> > > >>> >> > --Robert<br>
> > > >>> >> >
> > > >>> >> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Evan M. Inker
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