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DATE | 2013-06-07 |
FROM | einker
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] your phone service and you
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Jun 7 16:13:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id 70522161148; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 5E1EA16114B; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E977161148 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k5so5061296iea.32 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:13:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qoz2xnSiZVOyUe9J0i31kSXgdkt4Y6dr9x5/NqgR1sM=; b=MulzNYOarPYQMbLnMJrUN67D3CbaxxDF/gM9uqjJuFQWb0NhRvdNvIAXghPpYLuXXa IBRb57upVGevj3FGKdgw0IqyzFuuqdEFq0p202ZjWUG5ualMmaCIvbcrY4NoYgvIPehA GZPArVpYRhO9kJz0I6dqRYVL3LKAD/kpsa3+hSd9NQ7tseBn2VRuAeWze6E0+0f9oRO7 pMZQzWcpdftHjG7KgOseOOXaW3rXdGMnOZHvM/inNYlSZCsRKYrXxmJsDomXMgm9rZQa 8CJlsgirRMhd+Zpa8sm+LClO2eY59WIea5q/an30tc/WkMJRCAmFhE9MoqBus001/8xa fXcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.29.107 with SMTP id j11mr1959537igh.105.1370636007649; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.145.71 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:13:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51B23DBD.7070304-at-panix.com> References: <51B23DBD.7070304-at-panix.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:13:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] your phone service and you From: einker To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd760c45a3b5f04de961033 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Good luck .... Opps ... I've been be translated and digitized ....
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Ruben wrote:
> Chris H (Listening) > Chris H: Welcome to Vonage Support. How may I help you? > Ruben Me: I want you to stop translating and spying on my voicemail > Chris H: I'll be glad to assist you with that today. > Chris H: You would like to turn off the Vonage Visual Voicemail feature? > Ruben Me: more than that. I don't want your software to touch my voicemail > at all. Your translating and storing my voicemails in your database for > the CIA and FBI and the NSA > Chris H: Ok, do you just want to completely turn off the voicemail feature? > Ruben Me: no - I just don't want to you have survalience of my phone calls > Ruben Me: turn off the translation and stop spying on my voicemails > Chris H: I can turn off the Visual Voicemail feature, but voicemail by > it's very nature is stored on our servers. > Ruben Me: first, turn off the translations. I NEVER gavfe you permision > to convert my voicemail wav files to text > Ruben Me: I expect complete privacy on my phone line > Chris H: Ok, that's done. > Ruben Me: https://support.vonage.com/**euf/rightnow/optimized/** > 1369415427/themes/standard/**images/chat_agent.png > Ruben Me: no it is not, you are still spying on my voicemail > Chris H: How do you figure? > Ruben Me: you are to stop doing this > Ruben Me: because it was in the government report from the Washington Post > this morning > Chris H: Vonage is listed there? > Ruben Me: your translation software has been translated every voicemail on > your system and systematically sent to the NSA > Chris H: Where does it say that? > Ruben Me: It is listed in the primary documents that I have in my hands > right now > Chris H: I'm on the Washington Post right now. I can't find any thing > that says Vonage is doing that. > Ruben Me: and the fact that you turned on the translation software without > my permission just confirms further that your spying on my software > Chris H: That's a feature that's enabled by default which you can turn off > at any time. > Ruben Me: I am looking at the source files and clearly the NSA has listed > Vonage > Chris H: Answer Title: Visual Voicemail > Answer Link: https://support.vonage.com/**app/answers/detail/a_id/781 > > Chris H: Right. > Ruben Me: I want you to stop sending my call data to the government > Ruben Me: so is Skype, and cablevision,TW, Prodigy, Yahoo - it is over 400 > pages of raw data > Ruben Me: and that is just this zip code > Chris H: Ok. > Ruben Me: Ok now we are just getting snarky > Ruben Me: send me a guarantee in writing that my voicemail and phone > records are not being monitored and given to the government without my > concent > Chris H: I can not do that. > Ruben Me: then find someone who can >
-- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Good luck ....
Opps ... I've been be tra= nslated and digitized ....
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Good luck .... Opps ... I've been be translated and digitized ....
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Ruben wrote:
> Chris H (Listening) > Chris H: Welcome to Vonage Support. How may I help you? > Ruben Me: I want you to stop translating and spying on my voicemail > Chris H: I'll be glad to assist you with that today. > Chris H: You would like to turn off the Vonage Visual Voicemail feature? > Ruben Me: more than that. I don't want your software to touch my voicemail > at all. Your translating and storing my voicemails in your database for > the CIA and FBI and the NSA > Chris H: Ok, do you just want to completely turn off the voicemail feature? > Ruben Me: no - I just don't want to you have survalience of my phone calls > Ruben Me: turn off the translation and stop spying on my voicemails > Chris H: I can turn off the Visual Voicemail feature, but voicemail by > it's very nature is stored on our servers. > Ruben Me: first, turn off the translations. I NEVER gavfe you permision > to convert my voicemail wav files to text > Ruben Me: I expect complete privacy on my phone line > Chris H: Ok, that's done. > Ruben Me: https://support.vonage.com/**euf/rightnow/optimized/** > 1369415427/themes/standard/**images/chat_agent.png > Ruben Me: no it is not, you are still spying on my voicemail > Chris H: How do you figure? > Ruben Me: you are to stop doing this > Ruben Me: because it was in the government report from the Washington Post > this morning > Chris H: Vonage is listed there? > Ruben Me: your translation software has been translated every voicemail on > your system and systematically sent to the NSA > Chris H: Where does it say that? > Ruben Me: It is listed in the primary documents that I have in my hands > right now > Chris H: I'm on the Washington Post right now. I can't find any thing > that says Vonage is doing that. > Ruben Me: and the fact that you turned on the translation software without > my permission just confirms further that your spying on my software > Chris H: That's a feature that's enabled by default which you can turn off > at any time. > Ruben Me: I am looking at the source files and clearly the NSA has listed > Vonage > Chris H: Answer Title: Visual Voicemail > Answer Link: https://support.vonage.com/**app/answers/detail/a_id/781 > > Chris H: Right. > Ruben Me: I want you to stop sending my call data to the government > Ruben Me: so is Skype, and cablevision,TW, Prodigy, Yahoo - it is over 400 > pages of raw data > Ruben Me: and that is just this zip code > Chris H: Ok. > Ruben Me: Ok now we are just getting snarky > Ruben Me: send me a guarantee in writing that my voicemail and phone > records are not being monitored and given to the government without my > concent > Chris H: I can not do that. > Ruben Me: then find someone who can >
-- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Good luck ....
Opps ... I've been be tra= nslated and digitized ....
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