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DATE | 2013-05-30 |
FROM | Paul Robert Marino
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I think Hell just froze over
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Evan I thought you would get a kick out of that one.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM, einker wrote:
> Hey! I thought Flying Monkeys from Hell ruled but i stand corrected .... > Definitely Flying Pigs with Liquid Nitrogen are Best! > Thanks Rob! > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > >> Recently a vendor who makes Linux appliances who was trying to sell them >> to my company told me something shocking and whats even more shocking is >> its true. >> First some background for the last couple of years Ive been working on a >> pure Perl API for CIM (Common Information Model ) an old but very useful >> standard written by the DMTF that in many ways makes SNMP look like a >> ridiculous relic. CIM is the parent protocol for a lot of other >> standardized protocols for managing and monitoring systems, virtual >> machines, storage infrastructures, etc. Some of the most common >> implementations of it are SBLIM on GNU Linux, SMI-S on storage devices, the >> VMware vSphere APIs, Dell OpenManage, HP System Insight Manager, WMI on >> Windows, and many more. >> >> Now to the point. Well it seams Microsoft decided to drop a new bomb I've >> never seen from them before. Microsoft wrote a new WBEM (Web Based >> Enterprise Management) server for Windows Server 2012 which is the server >> side component of the CIM standard to serve up WMI. the shocking part is >> they made it so it compiles under Linux and Unix and released the code >> under the Apache 2 license. >> >> No this is not a joke its real, Microsoft is releasing open source >> software! >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/b/windowsserver/archive/2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx >> >> Ive been speculating for a few years now that they might start doing this >> based on the fact that they let the Samba core developers see the windows >> source code and all of their patents after the samba developers signing >> NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreement) and they did a similar thing with >> Microsoft Exchange and the core developers of Open Change (Open Change is >> an open source clone of Microsoft Exchange which is still not complete yet >> but its getting there). Still this is shocking and is going to >> significantly change the software and OS landscape, but I'm honestly just >> not sure how yet. Is It going to be a good thing , a bad thing ? I don't >> know! Now to be clear its open source not free speech software so they are >> still protecting their sales, but still its unprecedented for Microsoft, >> the company whos co-founder (You know the one) came up with the concept of >> software licenses in the first place to prevent users from sharing software >> http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesletter.html. >> >> >> The only thing I can think of that could explain this a large squadren of >> pigs flew into Hell and bomed it with liquid nitrogen till it froze. >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Evan M. Inker >
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Evan I thought you would get a kick out of that one. >
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Evan I thought you would get a kick out of that one.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM, einker wrote:
> Hey! I thought Flying Monkeys from Hell ruled but i stand corrected .... > Definitely Flying Pigs with Liquid Nitrogen are Best! > Thanks Rob! > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > >> Recently a vendor who makes Linux appliances who was trying to sell them >> to my company told me something shocking and whats even more shocking is >> its true. >> First some background for the last couple of years Ive been working on a >> pure Perl API for CIM (Common Information Model ) an old but very useful >> standard written by the DMTF that in many ways makes SNMP look like a >> ridiculous relic. CIM is the parent protocol for a lot of other >> standardized protocols for managing and monitoring systems, virtual >> machines, storage infrastructures, etc. Some of the most common >> implementations of it are SBLIM on GNU Linux, SMI-S on storage devices, the >> VMware vSphere APIs, Dell OpenManage, HP System Insight Manager, WMI on >> Windows, and many more. >> >> Now to the point. Well it seams Microsoft decided to drop a new bomb I've >> never seen from them before. Microsoft wrote a new WBEM (Web Based >> Enterprise Management) server for Windows Server 2012 which is the server >> side component of the CIM standard to serve up WMI. the shocking part is >> they made it so it compiles under Linux and Unix and released the code >> under the Apache 2 license. >> >> No this is not a joke its real, Microsoft is releasing open source >> software! >> >> http://blogs.technet.com/b/windowsserver/archive/2012/06/28/open-management-infrastructure.aspx >> >> Ive been speculating for a few years now that they might start doing this >> based on the fact that they let the Samba core developers see the windows >> source code and all of their patents after the samba developers signing >> NDA's (Non Disclosure Agreement) and they did a similar thing with >> Microsoft Exchange and the core developers of Open Change (Open Change is >> an open source clone of Microsoft Exchange which is still not complete yet >> but its getting there). Still this is shocking and is going to >> significantly change the software and OS landscape, but I'm honestly just >> not sure how yet. Is It going to be a good thing , a bad thing ? I don't >> know! Now to be clear its open source not free speech software so they are >> still protecting their sales, but still its unprecedented for Microsoft, >> the company whos co-founder (You know the one) came up with the concept of >> software licenses in the first place to prevent users from sharing software >> http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesletter.html. >> >> >> The only thing I can think of that could explain this a large squadren of >> pigs flew into Hell and bomed it with liquid nitrogen till it froze. >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Evan M. Inker >
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Evan I thought you would get a kick out of that one. >
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