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DATE | 2013-04-24 |
FROM | Elfen Magix
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG/NYLXS collaberation sugestion
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Shell Basics and Emacs can be done in a day. GIMP can be done in a day IF t= hey have PhotoShop experience. Installation can be done in a day as well, a= s 2/2007 showed at the Ubuntu/Google conference and installfest, and they o= nly gave us 1/2 a day to do it!
The Perl stuff will take a whole course, with just barely scratching the su= rface if you do a 1 day intro.
--- On Wed, 4/24/13, Ruben Safir wrote:
From: Ruben Safir Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG/NYLXS collaberation sugestion To: "NYLXS" Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 3:38 AM
FWIW
Proposal to NYLUG
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I don't know
I'm thinking of doing a workup of a regular program for Tuesday nights that NYLXS can co-bill with NYLUG, FWIW.=A0 I'm sure that is not in itself a program.=A0 But there are a couple of things that bother me.=A0 First, I've been involved in education with Free Software now since 2000 and it seems to me that nobody respects of commits seriously to a program if they don't pay something for it.=A0 There needs to be some kind of payment.=A0 I don't know what Meetup does with NYLUG and how it involves the library, but I not interested in doing a serious class without commitment, to have people float in and out, and drop out because halfway through new people can't get in properly or everyone else decided to spend their Tuesday nights at the Malted Shop.
Secondly, we have a rather large program developed, and if we did this, then I think I'd want to start from the ground up...
Shell basics, vi, Unix Power tools, GNU instllation and basic adminstration, Perl, C, OO-Perl, C++
more or less in that order
And then I'd like to see another track that I had never developed with I do want which is application usage:
general desktop application overview gimp emacs libre-office gnucash inkscape blender firefox thunderbird
some can be done in a day.=A0 Some deserve some serious study.
Ruben
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Shell Basics and Emacs can be done in a day. = GIMP can be done in a day IF they have PhotoShop experience. Installation c= an be done in a day as well, as 2/2007 showed at the Ubuntu/Google conferen= ce and installfest, and they only gave us 1/2 a day to do it!
The Pe= rl stuff will take a whole course, with just barely scratching the surface = if you do a 1 day intro.
--- On Wed, 4/24/13, Ruben Safir= <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
r-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><= br>From: Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOU= T] NYLUG/NYLXS collaberation sugestion To: "NYLXS" <hangout-at-nylxs.com= > Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 3:38 AM
Mail">FWIW
Proposal to NYLUG
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't know
I'm thinking of doing a workup of a regular program for Tuesda= y nights that NYLXS can co-bill with NYLUG, FWIW. I'm sure that is= not in itself a program. But there are a couple of things that bo= ther me. First, I've been involved in education with Free Software= now since 2000 and it seems to me that nobody respects of commits serio= usly to a program if they don't pay something for it. There needs = to be some kind of payment. I don't know what Meetup does with NYL= UG and how it involves the library, but I not interested in doing a seri= ous class without commitment, to have people float in and out, and drop = out because halfway through new people can't get in properly or everyone= else decided to spend their Tuesday nights at the Malted Shop.
S= econdly, we have a rather large program developed, and if we did this, t= hen I think I'd want to start from the ground up...
Shell basics, vi, Unix Power tools, GNU instllation and basic adminstration, = Perl, C, OO-Perl, C++
more or less in that order
And then I'd= like to see another track that I had never developed with I do want whi= ch is application usage:
general desktop application overview gim= p emacs libre-office gnucash inkscape blender firefox = thunderbird
some can be done in a day. Some deserve some serio= us study.
Ruben
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Shell Basics and Emacs can be done in a day. GIMP can be done in a day IF t= hey have PhotoShop experience. Installation can be done in a day as well, a= s 2/2007 showed at the Ubuntu/Google conference and installfest, and they o= nly gave us 1/2 a day to do it!
The Perl stuff will take a whole course, with just barely scratching the su= rface if you do a 1 day intro.
--- On Wed, 4/24/13, Ruben Safir wrote:
From: Ruben Safir Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG/NYLXS collaberation sugestion To: "NYLXS" Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 3:38 AM
FWIW
Proposal to NYLUG
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't know
I'm thinking of doing a workup of a regular program for Tuesday nights that NYLXS can co-bill with NYLUG, FWIW.=A0 I'm sure that is not in itself a program.=A0 But there are a couple of things that bother me.=A0 First, I've been involved in education with Free Software now since 2000 and it seems to me that nobody respects of commits seriously to a program if they don't pay something for it.=A0 There needs to be some kind of payment.=A0 I don't know what Meetup does with NYLUG and how it involves the library, but I not interested in doing a serious class without commitment, to have people float in and out, and drop out because halfway through new people can't get in properly or everyone else decided to spend their Tuesday nights at the Malted Shop.
Secondly, we have a rather large program developed, and if we did this, then I think I'd want to start from the ground up...
Shell basics, vi, Unix Power tools, GNU instllation and basic adminstration, Perl, C, OO-Perl, C++
more or less in that order
And then I'd like to see another track that I had never developed with I do want which is application usage:
general desktop application overview gimp emacs libre-office gnucash inkscape blender firefox thunderbird
some can be done in a day.=A0 Some deserve some serious study.
Ruben
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Shell Basics and Emacs can be done in a day. = GIMP can be done in a day IF they have PhotoShop experience. Installation c= an be done in a day as well, as 2/2007 showed at the Ubuntu/Google conferen= ce and installfest, and they only gave us 1/2 a day to do it!
The Pe= rl stuff will take a whole course, with just barely scratching the surface = if you do a 1 day intro.
--- On Wed, 4/24/13, Ruben Safir= <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
r-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><= br>From: Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOU= T] NYLUG/NYLXS collaberation sugestion To: "NYLXS" <hangout-at-nylxs.com= > Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 3:38 AM
Mail">FWIW
Proposal to NYLUG
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't know
I'm thinking of doing a workup of a regular program for Tuesda= y nights that NYLXS can co-bill with NYLUG, FWIW. I'm sure that is= not in itself a program. But there are a couple of things that bo= ther me. First, I've been involved in education with Free Software= now since 2000 and it seems to me that nobody respects of commits serio= usly to a program if they don't pay something for it. There needs = to be some kind of payment. I don't know what Meetup does with NYL= UG and how it involves the library, but I not interested in doing a seri= ous class without commitment, to have people float in and out, and drop = out because halfway through new people can't get in properly or everyone= else decided to spend their Tuesday nights at the Malted Shop.
S= econdly, we have a rather large program developed, and if we did this, t= hen I think I'd want to start from the ground up...
Shell basics, vi, Unix Power tools, GNU instllation and basic adminstration, = Perl, C, OO-Perl, C++
more or less in that order
And then I'd= like to see another track that I had never developed with I do want whi= ch is application usage:
general desktop application overview gim= p emacs libre-office gnucash inkscape blender firefox = thunderbird
some can be done in a day. Some deserve some serio= us study.
Ruben
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