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MESSAGE
DATE 2013-03-25
FROM From: "Paul Robert Marino"
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Mar 25 08:59:16 2013
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:59:13 -0400
From: "Paul Robert Marino"
To:
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] UEFI
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Mac =3DPC made by apple

Yes it is possible to sign and install your =
own keys they had to add support for it otherwise Microsoft would have been=
looking at an other anti trust case. They just made it extremely difficult=
the funny thing about it is it actually make the "security" useless. I mea=
n in a sense it adds an other layer which will break legacy MBR viruses but=
it doesn't prevent new ones from installing their own certs so it makes th=
e whole thing pointless. Furthermore there are several distributions which =
have now filled out the mountain of paperwork to get Microsoft to sign thei=
r keys. This key signing is "free" if you don't count paying the lawyers in=
volved. So there are several ways this can work.

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>
99;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3

t-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
5%">On Mar 25, 2013 2:30 AM, Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
r>
On 03/24/2013 01:58 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> well =
usually you just turn it off secure boot in the bios=0D
=0D
I thought=
that wasn't always possible. Also, there seems to be problems =0D
read=
ing from the MBR=0D
>=0D
> however there is a tool to inject yo=
ur own keys generated by openssl=0D
> into the boot.=0D
> here =
is an article=0D
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/UEFI=0D
> her=
e is a better one=0D
> http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/uefi-secure-=
boot/=0D
>=0D
=0D
I've read this. It is frankly depressing. H=
ow does one install GNU on =0D
a Mac?=0D
=0D

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Mac =3DPC made by apple

Yes it is possible to sign and install your =
own keys they had to add support for it otherwise Microsoft would have been=
looking at an other anti trust case. They just made it extremely difficult=
the funny thing about it is it actually make the "security" useless. I mea=
n in a sense it adds an other layer which will break legacy MBR viruses but=
it doesn't prevent new ones from installing their own certs so it makes th=
e whole thing pointless. Furthermore there are several distributions which =
have now filled out the mountain of paperwork to get Microsoft to sign thei=
r keys. This key signing is "free" if you don't count paying the lawyers in=
volved. So there are several ways this can work.

-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;">

>
99;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3

t-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
5%">On Mar 25, 2013 2:30 AM, Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
r>
On 03/24/2013 01:58 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> well =
usually you just turn it off secure boot in the bios=0D
=0D
I thought=
that wasn't always possible. Also, there seems to be problems =0D
read=
ing from the MBR=0D
>=0D
> however there is a tool to inject yo=
ur own keys generated by openssl=0D
> into the boot.=0D
> here =
is an article=0D
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/UEFI=0D
> her=
e is a better one=0D
> http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/uefi-secure-=
boot/=0D
>=0D
=0D
I've read this. It is frankly depressing. H=
ow does one install GNU on =0D
a Mac?=0D
=0D

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