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DATE | 2013-01-30 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 50th
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=0A=0A< grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=0A= =0AMy understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing Apple= products and other gadgetry.=A0 It concerns me because one of the things I= liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.=A0 But I= keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the inevitable= result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads are really p= ricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers.=A0 In that case the rise = in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring the truths alre= ady learned the hard way.=A0 Has there ever been a time everyone could have= walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and crime would not ha= ve risen?>>=0A=0A=0ANo.=A0 There is an insidious uptick in crime and genera= l filthiness.=A0 The city is in a huge slide and its social fabric is comin= g unglued again.=A0 Whether it is just kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal = dumping. muggings and threatening behavior by kids on trains and streets, i= t is seriously sliding back, and more quickly than global warming.=0A=0A=0A= > And I need to move on to my second phase of life to life in a place=0A> w= here I feel that I can matter more under less stress. I'd have been=0A> gon= e already if not for the legal issues I'm still stuck in.=0A=0A<anding about your wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same probl= ems everyone else has.=A0 Since I don't want to get into the weeds right no= w, I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the fut= ure is "new".=A0 You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and = frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and do= esn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>=0A=0A=0A= Ron, your not getting IT.=A0 We do not live forever.=A0 I have what, maybe = 15 years in my life left?=A0 Am I supposed to remake what again?=0A=0A=0A> = I'd also like to get remarried.=0A=0A<ted thoughts, or do you feel that you won't be getting remarried if you sta= y in Brooklyn?=A0 Certainly there's got to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn= .>>=0A=0A=0AMaybe, but I would rather not be here.=0A=0ARuben=0A ---346883024-1687226540-1359530591=:84983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> t-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> tyle=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12= pt;"><<I started working in Manhattan in '87 when I was still a kid, = but I grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=
My understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing = Apple products and other gadgetry. It concerns me because one of the = things I liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.&= nbsp; But I keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the= inevitable result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads a= re really pricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers. In that = case the rise in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring the truths already learned the hard way. Has there ever been a time = everyone could have walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and= crime would not have risen?>>
No. There is an insid= ious uptick in crime and general filthiness. The city is in a huge sl= ide and its social fabric is coming unglued again. Whether it is just= kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal dumping. muggings and threatening beha= vior by kids on trains and streets, it is seriously sliding back, and more = quickly than global warming.
> And I need to move on to my se= cond phase of life to life in a place > where I feel that I can matte= r more under less stress. I'd have been > gone already if not for the= legal issues I'm still stuck in.
<<My understanding about you= r wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same problems everyone els= e has. Since I don't want to get into the weeds right now, I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the futur= e is "new". You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and= frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and d= oesn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>r>
Ron, your not getting IT. We do not live forever. I h= ave what, maybe 15 years in my life left? Am I supposed to remake wha= t again?
> I'd also like to get remarried.
<<I'm= not sure if those are two unrelated thoughts, or do you feel that you won'= t be getting remarried if you stay in Brooklyn? Certainly there's got= to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn.>>
Maybe, but I would= rather not be here.
Ruben ---346883024-1687226540-1359530591=:84983--
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=0A=0A< grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=0A= =0AMy understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing Apple= products and other gadgetry.=A0 It concerns me because one of the things I= liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.=A0 But I= keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the inevitable= result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads are really p= ricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers.=A0 In that case the rise = in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring the truths alre= ady learned the hard way.=A0 Has there ever been a time everyone could have= walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and crime would not ha= ve risen?>>=0A=0A=0ANo.=A0 There is an insidious uptick in crime and genera= l filthiness.=A0 The city is in a huge slide and its social fabric is comin= g unglued again.=A0 Whether it is just kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal = dumping. muggings and threatening behavior by kids on trains and streets, i= t is seriously sliding back, and more quickly than global warming.=0A=0A=0A= > And I need to move on to my second phase of life to life in a place=0A> w= here I feel that I can matter more under less stress. I'd have been=0A> gon= e already if not for the legal issues I'm still stuck in.=0A=0A<anding about your wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same probl= ems everyone else has.=A0 Since I don't want to get into the weeds right no= w, I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the fut= ure is "new".=A0 You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and = frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and do= esn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>=0A=0A=0A= Ron, your not getting IT.=A0 We do not live forever.=A0 I have what, maybe = 15 years in my life left?=A0 Am I supposed to remake what again?=0A=0A=0A> = I'd also like to get remarried.=0A=0A<ted thoughts, or do you feel that you won't be getting remarried if you sta= y in Brooklyn?=A0 Certainly there's got to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn= .>>=0A=0A=0AMaybe, but I would rather not be here.=0A=0ARuben=0A ---346883024-1687226540-1359530591=:84983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> t-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> tyle=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12= pt;"><<I started working in Manhattan in '87 when I was still a kid, = but I grew up in the burbs, and I only get to see the photos from the 70's.=
My understanding has been that most of the crime is about stealing = Apple products and other gadgetry. It concerns me because one of the = things I liked about Brooklyn was wandering around on foot with my camera.&= nbsp; But I keep asking myself if this kind of crime isn't somehow just the= inevitable result of things of such large value (those iPhones and iPads a= re really pricey) being displayed publicly in large numbers. In that = case the rise in the crime rate is due to the city's inhabitants ignoring the truths already learned the hard way. Has there ever been a time = everyone could have walked around with $600 or more in their bare hands and= crime would not have risen?>>
No. There is an insid= ious uptick in crime and general filthiness. The city is in a huge sl= ide and its social fabric is coming unglued again. Whether it is just= kids jumping turnstiles, to illegal dumping. muggings and threatening beha= vior by kids on trains and streets, it is seriously sliding back, and more = quickly than global warming.
> And I need to move on to my se= cond phase of life to life in a place > where I feel that I can matte= r more under less stress. I'd have been > gone already if not for the= legal issues I'm still stuck in.
<<My understanding about you= r wanting to matter more, is that you've got the same problems everyone els= e has. Since I don't want to get into the weeds right now, I'll just say that whether you stay or go, the past is dead, and the futur= e is "new". You have to re-invent yourself and start from scratch and= frame everything in 2013 terms for a society that's fuzzy about 2010 and d= oesn't remember anything before 2008, and disdains people who do.>>r>
Ron, your not getting IT. We do not live forever. I h= ave what, maybe 15 years in my life left? Am I supposed to remake wha= t again?
> I'd also like to get remarried.
<<I'm= not sure if those are two unrelated thoughts, or do you feel that you won'= t be getting remarried if you stay in Brooklyn? Certainly there's got= to be nice Jewish girls in Brooklyn.>>
Maybe, but I would= rather not be here.
Ruben ---346883024-1687226540-1359530591=:84983--
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