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| DATE | 2012-08-09 |
| FROM | Elfen Magix
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No more Linix Mint
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From: Elfen Magix
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No more Linix Mint
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What do you expect from the Dataminers of Pern.=0A=0AInteresting to say the=
least, other than it is being old data. How much of it is viable? Here in =
the US, none.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: ei=
nker =0ATo: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com =0ACc: NYLXS ylxs.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:14 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NYLXS - =
HANGOUT] No more Linix Mint=0A =0A=0AInteresting enough that this post was =
from 2009. =0AIt would have been nice knowing that it was 3 years old=0A=0A=
=0AOn Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:=
=0A=0Ahttp://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D774=0A>=0A>Support Israel=E2=80=99s Gov=
ernment? Linux Mint Developer Says Go Away=0A>=0A>Note: Updated with origin=
al post retrieved from Google cache, I=E2=80=99ve=0A>amended my lede to ref=
lect the statement that support from Israel, as=0A>well as those who suppor=
t the Israeli government, is being rejected.=0A>=0A>By Brother Bradley J. F=
ikes, C.O.R.=0A>=0A>Clement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a v=
ariant of Ubuntu,=0A>doesn=E2=80=99t want support from Israel or of those w=
ho back the Israeli=0A>government.=0A>=0A>Lefebvre said so on the official =
blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That=0A>message was removed, but I found i=
t in Google cache (emphasis mine):=0A>=0A>This is not the place to talk abo=
ut this but I am deeply touched by what=0A>is happening over there. I feel =
disgust and guilt with us passively=0A>witnessing it and our money and weap=
ons supporting it. I don=E2=80=99t want=0A>to use my name or this project t=
o push my own ideas about this but I=0A>spend a lot of time working and giv=
ing away, sharing and receiving to=0A>and from a lot of people.=0A>=0A>I=E2=
=80=99m only going to ask for one thing here. If you do not agree I=0A>kind=
ly ask you not to use Linux Mint and not to donate money to it.=0A>=0A>I ho=
pe for these people to be able to live decently in the future and=0A>for me=
not to have anything to do with the misery they=E2=80=99re in at the=0A>mo=
ment.=0A>=0A>I promise not to talk about this anymore. I don=E2=80=99t want=
any money or=0A>help coming from Israel or people who support the action o=
f their=0A>current government.=0A>=0A>Thank you for your understanding. Thi=
s is very important to me.=0A>=0A>He later moved the message to his persona=
l blog,:=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CI don=E2=80=99t want any money or help coming from=
people who support=0A>the actions of the Israeli government.=E2=80=9D=0A>=
=0A>Well, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if anything it=
=0A>hasn=E2=80=99t been strong enough against the terrorists who want to de=
stroy=0A>Israel. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mint as having anyt=
hing=0A>to do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps that Israelis and=0A=
>Palestinians might work together on the project, bridging the divide.=0A>=
=0A>Not so. If you support Palestine, including Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre=0A=
>wants your support for Linux Mint. But if you support Israel=E2=80=99s=0A>=
defense against Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists, Lefebvre=0A>doesn=
=E2=80=99t want you.=0A>=0A>One commenter on his personal blog asked:=0A>=
=0A>=E2=80=9CDo you still not want support for Mint from supporters of=0A>I=
srael=E2=80=99s government?=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>Lefebvre=E2=80=99s reply:=0A>=
=0A>=E2=80=9CIf I supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to=
=0A>finance you and to interact with you?=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>Lefebvre does adm=
it to the existence of Palestinian terrorism, but=0A>doesn=E2=80=99t reject=
the support of pro-Palestinians, because =E2=80=9Cone is=0A>significantly =
more empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the=0A>other one.=E2=
=80=9D=0A>=0A>Lefebvre sees Israelis as the problem.=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CIt=E2=
=80=99s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over the=0A>globe =
complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to=0A>dissociate =
themselves from them. I don=E2=80=99t agree with what Israel is=0A>doing an=
d although they=E2=80=99re forced to take action and defend=0A>themselves I=
don=E2=80=99t believe they have their back against the wall=0A>without any=
other possible alternative.=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>Yes, the Israelis could just l=
ay down and die.=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CSo people when joining shoulder to shoulde=
r with other people in=0A>making this operating system better and better yo=
u suddenly realise some=0A>of them are actively supporting this, you need t=
o let them know how you=0A>feel.=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>This is not a personal vie=
w. Lefebvre is talking about Linux Mint.=0A>He=E2=80=99s telling those who =
support Israel=E2=80=99s actions in self-defense=0A>to go away and not to h=
elp him with the project.=0A>=0A>I=E2=80=99m honoring Lefebvre=E2=80=99s wi=
shes and will no longer use Linux=0A>Mint, which I had come to admire.=0A>=
=0A>Too bad.=0A>=0A>(DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, this is p=
urely my own=0A>opinion, and not that of my employer, the North County Time=
s.)=0A>=0A>Tags: technology=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0ARegards, =0A=0AEvan M. Inker
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> What do yo=
u expect from the Dataminers of Pern. iv> Interesting to say the least, other than it is being old data=
. How much of it is viable? Here in the US, none.
&nbs=
p; font-size: 12pt;"> imes, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> =3D"2">
From:<=
/b> einker <eminker-at-gmail.com>
d;">To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
bold;">Cc: NYLXS <hangout-at-nylxs.com>
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:14 PM> style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No =
more Linix Mint
=0A Interes= ting enough that this post was from 2009. It would have been nice knowi= ng that it was 3 years old O= n Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir <nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote: =0A lockquote class=3D"yiv1963051132gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">http://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D77=
4
=0A
=0ASupport Israel=E2=80=99s Government? Linux Mint Developer Sa=
ys Go Away
=0A
=0ANote: Updated with original post retrieved from Goo=
gle cache, I=E2=80=99ve
=0Aamended my lede to reflect the statement that=
support from Israel, as
=0Awell as those who support the Israeli govern=
ment, is being rejected.
=0A
=0ABy Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.r>=0A
=0AClement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a variant o=
f Ubuntu,
=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t want support from Israel or of those who ba=
ck the Israeli
=0Agovernment.
=0A
=0ALefebvre said so on the offic=
ial blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That
=0Amessage was removed, but I =
found it in Google cache (emphasis mine):
=0A
=0AThis is not the plac=
e to talk about this but I am deeply touched by what
=0Ais happening ove=
r there. I feel disgust and guilt with us passively
=0Awitnessing it and=
our money and weapons supporting it. I don=E2=80=99t want
=0Ato use my =
name or this project to push my own ideas about this but I
=0Aspend a lo=
t of time working and giving away, sharing and receiving to
=0Aand from =
a lot of people.
=0A
=0AI=E2=80=99m only going to ask for one thing h=
ere. If you do not agree I
=0Akindly ask you not to use Linux Mint and n=
ot to donate money to it.
=0A
=0AI hope for these people to be able t=
o live decently in the future and
=0Afor me not to have anything to do w=
ith the misery they=E2=80=99re in at the
=0Amoment.
=0A
=0AI promi=
se not to talk about this anymore. I don=E2=80=99t want any money or
=0A=
help coming from Israel or people who support the action of their
=0Acur=
rent government.
=0A
=0AThank you for your understanding. This is ver=
y important to me.
=0A
=0AHe later moved the message to his personal =
blog,:
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CI don=E2=80=99t want any money or help coming =
from people who support
=0Athe actions of the Israeli government.=E2=80=
=9D
=0A
=0AWell, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if =
anything it
=0Ahasn=E2=80=99t been strong enough against the terrorists =
who want to destroy
=0AIsrael. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mi=
nt as having anything
=0Ato do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps =
that Israelis and
=0APalestinians might work together on the project, br=
idging the divide.
=0A
=0ANot so. If you support Palestine, including=
Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre
=0Awants your support for Linux Mint. But if y=
ou support Israel=E2=80=99s
=0Adefense against Hamas and other Palestini=
an terrorists, Lefebvre
=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t want you.
=0A
=0AOne co=
mmenter on his personal blog asked:
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CDo you still not =
want support for Mint from supporters of
=0AIsrael=E2=80=99s government?=
=E2=80=9D
=0A
=0ALefebvre=E2=80=99s reply:
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CIf I=
supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to
=0Afinance you=
and to interact with you?=E2=80=9D
=0A
=0ALefebvre does admit to the=
existence of Palestinian terrorism, but
=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t reject the s=
upport of pro-Palestinians, because =E2=80=9Cone is
=0Asignificantly mor=
e empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the
=0Aother one.=E2=
=80=9D
=0A
=0ALefebvre sees Israelis as the problem.
=0A
=0A=E2=
=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over th=
e
=0Aglobe complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to<=
br>=0Adissociate themselves from them. I don=E2=80=99t agree with what Isra=
el is
=0Adoing and although they=E2=80=99re forced to take action and de=
fend
=0Athemselves I don=E2=80=99t believe they have their back against =
the wall
=0Awithout any other possible alternative.=E2=80=9D
=0A
=
=0AYes, the Israelis could just lay down and die.
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CSo =
people when joining shoulder to shoulder with other people in
=0Amaking =
this operating system better and better you suddenly realise some
=0Aof =
them are actively supporting this, you need to let them know how you
=0A=
feel.=E2=80=9D
=0A
=0AThis is not a personal view. Lefebvre is talkin=
g about Linux Mint.
=0AHe=E2=80=99s telling those who support Israel=E2=
=80=99s actions in self-defense
=0Ato go away and not to help him with t=
he project.
=0A
=0AI=E2=80=99m honoring Lefebvre=E2=80=99s wishes and=
will no longer use Linux
=0AMint, which I had come to admire.
=0A>=0AToo bad.
=0A
=0A(DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, thi=
s is purely my own
=0Aopinion, and not that of my employer, the North Co=
unty Times.)
=0A
=0ATags: technology
=0A
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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HANGOUT] No more Linix Mint=0A =0A=0AInteresting enough that this post was =
from 2009. =0AIt would have been nice knowing that it was 3 years old=0A=0A=
=0AOn Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:=
=0A=0Ahttp://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D774=0A>=0A>Support Israel=E2=80=99s Gov=
ernment? Linux Mint Developer Says Go Away=0A>=0A>Note: Updated with origin=
al post retrieved from Google cache, I=E2=80=99ve=0A>amended my lede to ref=
lect the statement that support from Israel, as=0A>well as those who suppor=
t the Israeli government, is being rejected.=0A>=0A>By Brother Bradley J. F=
ikes, C.O.R.=0A>=0A>Clement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a v=
ariant of Ubuntu,=0A>doesn=E2=80=99t want support from Israel or of those w=
ho back the Israeli=0A>government.=0A>=0A>Lefebvre said so on the official =
blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That=0A>message was removed, but I found i=
t in Google cache (emphasis mine):=0A>=0A>This is not the place to talk abo=
ut this but I am deeply touched by what=0A>is happening over there. I feel =
disgust and guilt with us passively=0A>witnessing it and our money and weap=
ons supporting it. I don=E2=80=99t want=0A>to use my name or this project t=
o push my own ideas about this but I=0A>spend a lot of time working and giv=
ing away, sharing and receiving to=0A>and from a lot of people.=0A>=0A>I=E2=
=80=99m only going to ask for one thing here. If you do not agree I=0A>kind=
ly ask you not to use Linux Mint and not to donate money to it.=0A>=0A>I ho=
pe for these people to be able to live decently in the future and=0A>for me=
not to have anything to do with the misery they=E2=80=99re in at the=0A>mo=
ment.=0A>=0A>I promise not to talk about this anymore. I don=E2=80=99t want=
any money or=0A>help coming from Israel or people who support the action o=
f their=0A>current government.=0A>=0A>Thank you for your understanding. Thi=
s is very important to me.=0A>=0A>He later moved the message to his persona=
l blog,:=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CI don=E2=80=99t want any money or help coming from=
people who support=0A>the actions of the Israeli government.=E2=80=9D=0A>=
=0A>Well, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if anything it=
=0A>hasn=E2=80=99t been strong enough against the terrorists who want to de=
stroy=0A>Israel. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mint as having anyt=
hing=0A>to do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps that Israelis and=0A=
>Palestinians might work together on the project, bridging the divide.=0A>=
=0A>Not so. If you support Palestine, including Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre=0A=
>wants your support for Linux Mint. But if you support Israel=E2=80=99s=0A>=
defense against Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists, Lefebvre=0A>doesn=
=E2=80=99t want you.=0A>=0A>One commenter on his personal blog asked:=0A>=
=0A>=E2=80=9CDo you still not want support for Mint from supporters of=0A>I=
srael=E2=80=99s government?=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>Lefebvre=E2=80=99s reply:=0A>=
=0A>=E2=80=9CIf I supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to=
=0A>finance you and to interact with you?=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>Lefebvre does adm=
it to the existence of Palestinian terrorism, but=0A>doesn=E2=80=99t reject=
the support of pro-Palestinians, because =E2=80=9Cone is=0A>significantly =
more empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the=0A>other one.=E2=
=80=9D=0A>=0A>Lefebvre sees Israelis as the problem.=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CIt=E2=
=80=99s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over the=0A>globe =
complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to=0A>dissociate =
themselves from them. I don=E2=80=99t agree with what Israel is=0A>doing an=
d although they=E2=80=99re forced to take action and defend=0A>themselves I=
don=E2=80=99t believe they have their back against the wall=0A>without any=
other possible alternative.=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>Yes, the Israelis could just l=
ay down and die.=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CSo people when joining shoulder to shoulde=
r with other people in=0A>making this operating system better and better yo=
u suddenly realise some=0A>of them are actively supporting this, you need t=
o let them know how you=0A>feel.=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>This is not a personal vie=
w. Lefebvre is talking about Linux Mint.=0A>He=E2=80=99s telling those who =
support Israel=E2=80=99s actions in self-defense=0A>to go away and not to h=
elp him with the project.=0A>=0A>I=E2=80=99m honoring Lefebvre=E2=80=99s wi=
shes and will no longer use Linux=0A>Mint, which I had come to admire.=0A>=
=0A>Too bad.=0A>=0A>(DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, this is p=
urely my own=0A>opinion, and not that of my employer, the North County Time=
s.)=0A>=0A>Tags: technology=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0ARegards, =0A=0AEvan M. Inker
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> What do yo=
u expect from the Dataminers of Pern. iv> Interesting to say the least, other than it is being old data=
. How much of it is viable? Here in the US, none.
&nbs=
p; font-size: 12pt;"> imes, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> =3D"2">
From:<=
/b> einker <eminker-at-gmail.com>
d;">To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
bold;">Cc: NYLXS <hangout-at-nylxs.com>
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 6:14 PM> style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No =
more Linix Mint
=0A Interes= ting enough that this post was from 2009. It would have been nice knowi= ng that it was 3 years old O= n Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir <nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote: =0A lockquote class=3D"yiv1963051132gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">http://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D77=
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=0A
=0ASupport Israel=E2=80=99s Government? Linux Mint Developer Sa=
ys Go Away
=0A
=0ANote: Updated with original post retrieved from Goo=
gle cache, I=E2=80=99ve
=0Aamended my lede to reflect the statement that=
support from Israel, as
=0Awell as those who support the Israeli govern=
ment, is being rejected.
=0A
=0ABy Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.r>=0A
=0AClement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a variant o=
f Ubuntu,
=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t want support from Israel or of those who ba=
ck the Israeli
=0Agovernment.
=0A
=0ALefebvre said so on the offic=
ial blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That
=0Amessage was removed, but I =
found it in Google cache (emphasis mine):
=0A
=0AThis is not the plac=
e to talk about this but I am deeply touched by what
=0Ais happening ove=
r there. I feel disgust and guilt with us passively
=0Awitnessing it and=
our money and weapons supporting it. I don=E2=80=99t want
=0Ato use my =
name or this project to push my own ideas about this but I
=0Aspend a lo=
t of time working and giving away, sharing and receiving to
=0Aand from =
a lot of people.
=0A
=0AI=E2=80=99m only going to ask for one thing h=
ere. If you do not agree I
=0Akindly ask you not to use Linux Mint and n=
ot to donate money to it.
=0A
=0AI hope for these people to be able t=
o live decently in the future and
=0Afor me not to have anything to do w=
ith the misery they=E2=80=99re in at the
=0Amoment.
=0A
=0AI promi=
se not to talk about this anymore. I don=E2=80=99t want any money or
=0A=
help coming from Israel or people who support the action of their
=0Acur=
rent government.
=0A
=0AThank you for your understanding. This is ver=
y important to me.
=0A
=0AHe later moved the message to his personal =
blog,:
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CI don=E2=80=99t want any money or help coming =
from people who support
=0Athe actions of the Israeli government.=E2=80=
=9D
=0A
=0AWell, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if =
anything it
=0Ahasn=E2=80=99t been strong enough against the terrorists =
who want to destroy
=0AIsrael. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mi=
nt as having anything
=0Ato do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps =
that Israelis and
=0APalestinians might work together on the project, br=
idging the divide.
=0A
=0ANot so. If you support Palestine, including=
Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre
=0Awants your support for Linux Mint. But if y=
ou support Israel=E2=80=99s
=0Adefense against Hamas and other Palestini=
an terrorists, Lefebvre
=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t want you.
=0A
=0AOne co=
mmenter on his personal blog asked:
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CDo you still not =
want support for Mint from supporters of
=0AIsrael=E2=80=99s government?=
=E2=80=9D
=0A
=0ALefebvre=E2=80=99s reply:
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CIf I=
supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to
=0Afinance you=
and to interact with you?=E2=80=9D
=0A
=0ALefebvre does admit to the=
existence of Palestinian terrorism, but
=0Adoesn=E2=80=99t reject the s=
upport of pro-Palestinians, because =E2=80=9Cone is
=0Asignificantly mor=
e empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the
=0Aother one.=E2=
=80=9D
=0A
=0ALefebvre sees Israelis as the problem.
=0A
=0A=E2=
=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over th=
e
=0Aglobe complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to<=
br>=0Adissociate themselves from them. I don=E2=80=99t agree with what Isra=
el is
=0Adoing and although they=E2=80=99re forced to take action and de=
fend
=0Athemselves I don=E2=80=99t believe they have their back against =
the wall
=0Awithout any other possible alternative.=E2=80=9D
=0A
=
=0AYes, the Israelis could just lay down and die.
=0A
=0A=E2=80=9CSo =
people when joining shoulder to shoulder with other people in
=0Amaking =
this operating system better and better you suddenly realise some
=0Aof =
them are actively supporting this, you need to let them know how you
=0A=
feel.=E2=80=9D
=0A
=0AThis is not a personal view. Lefebvre is talkin=
g about Linux Mint.
=0AHe=E2=80=99s telling those who support Israel=E2=
=80=99s actions in self-defense
=0Ato go away and not to help him with t=
he project.
=0A
=0AI=E2=80=99m honoring Lefebvre=E2=80=99s wishes and=
will no longer use Linux
=0AMint, which I had come to admire.
=0A>=0AToo bad.
=0A
=0A(DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, thi=
s is purely my own
=0Aopinion, and not that of my employer, the North Co=
unty Times.)
=0A
=0ATags: technology
=0A
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Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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