MESSAGE
DATE | 2012-08-07 |
FROM | einker
|
SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No more Linix Mint
|
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Aug 7 18:10:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id 9BE9B3A61D; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 88A5E3A402; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D432F3A402 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vcbfy27 with SMTP id fy27so136290vcb.34 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:14:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=e/k1h+Sbu8Ob6d+eRpdr1GMtBsf8WOKm2Q4bZukUWXQ=; b=OpGH/m1Q7GNGFTXG8c0ATtZdOiXbA51/YQwTKYt4Je/wFT/Q8LvXpkPNXbJZUVrGsj LHb+9Iq1Hu6VcoNA6IjMy5npr3OK5RabnS0uv8nM0wU2EC0p2GWcLWt0wuCOuq4R2i7Q 6zuUi/Wd9JD5tgjdK77aGTk6XQoUtbaVpl+JbiuiKHPSlfxsQiNa9PPDTW38Bahk1yrj KflFR8cEmVPqJyE4UJHXyCmXFEkxTSmzGual1Jx2jf+UDNIFHJIJtIjGd1c47dRJ85hI I01Vu3CxBtd8GrMFBt69/K4GRbdD3HbPGIWsaWLEN8Wap12VBg1v81yCYy0jdDZcQRWb nL5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.16.46 with SMTP id c14mr10635339vdd.94.1344377696149; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.47.204 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:14:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120807214535.GA26287-at-panix.com> References: <20120807214535.GA26287-at-panix.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:14:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No more Linix Mint From: einker To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Cc: NYLXS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
--bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting enough that this post was from 2009. It would have been nice knowing that it was 3 years old
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> http://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D774 > > Support Israel=92s Government? Linux Mint Developer Says Go Away > > Note: Updated with original post retrieved from Google cache, I=92ve > amended my lede to reflect the statement that support from Israel, as > well as those who support the Israeli government, is being rejected. > > By Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. > > Clement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a variant of Ubuntu, > doesn=92t want support from Israel or of those who back the Israeli > government. > > Lefebvre said so on the official blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That > message was removed, but I found it in Google cache (emphasis mine): > > This is not the place to talk about this but I am deeply touched by what > is happening over there. I feel disgust and guilt with us passively > witnessing it and our money and weapons supporting it. I don=92t want > to use my name or this project to push my own ideas about this but I > spend a lot of time working and giving away, sharing and receiving to > and from a lot of people. > > I=92m only going to ask for one thing here. If you do not agree I > kindly ask you not to use Linux Mint and not to donate money to it. > > I hope for these people to be able to live decently in the future and > for me not to have anything to do with the misery they=92re in at the > moment. > > I promise not to talk about this anymore. I don=92t want any money or > help coming from Israel or people who support the action of their > current government. > > Thank you for your understanding. This is very important to me. > > He later moved the message to his personal blog,: > > =93I don=92t want any money or help coming from people who support > the actions of the Israeli government.=94 > > Well, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if anything it > hasn=92t been strong enough against the terrorists who want to destroy > Israel. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mint as having anything > to do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps that Israelis and > Palestinians might work together on the project, bridging the divide. > > Not so. If you support Palestine, including Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre > wants your support for Linux Mint. But if you support Israel=92s > defense against Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists, Lefebvre > doesn=92t want you. > > One commenter on his personal blog asked: > > =93Do you still not want support for Mint from supporters of > Israel=92s government?=94 > > Lefebvre=92s reply: > > =93If I supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to > finance you and to interact with you?=94 > > Lefebvre does admit to the existence of Palestinian terrorism, but > doesn=92t reject the support of pro-Palestinians, because =93one is > significantly more empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the > other one.=94 > > Lefebvre sees Israelis as the problem. > > =93It=92s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over the > globe complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to > dissociate themselves from them. I don=92t agree with what Israel is > doing and although they=92re forced to take action and defend > themselves I don=92t believe they have their back against the wall > without any other possible alternative.=94 > > Yes, the Israelis could just lay down and die. > > =93So people when joining shoulder to shoulder with other people in > making this operating system better and better you suddenly realise some > of them are actively supporting this, you need to let them know how you > feel.=94 > > This is not a personal view. Lefebvre is talking about Linux Mint. > He=92s telling those who support Israel=92s actions in self-defense > to go away and not to help him with the project. > > I=92m honoring Lefebvre=92s wishes and will no longer use Linux > Mint, which I had come to admire. > > Too bad. > > (DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, this is purely my own > opinion, and not that of my employer, the North County Times.) > > Tags: technology >
--=20 Regards,
Evan M. Inker
--bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting enough that this post was from 2009. It would have been nic= e knowing that it was 3 years old
On Tue,= Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir <o:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> w= rote: x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">" target=3D"_blank">http://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D774
Support Israel=92s Government? Linux Mint Developer Says Go Away
Note: Updated with original post retrieved from Google cache, I=92ve
amended my lede to reflect the statement that support from Israel, as
well as those who support the Israeli government, is being rejected.
By Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.
Clement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a variant of Ubuntu, > doesn=92t want support from Israel or of those who back the Israeli
government.
Lefebvre said so on the official blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That
message was removed, but I found it in Google cache (emphasis mine):
This is not the place to talk about this but I am deeply touched by what > is happening over there. I feel disgust and guilt with us passively
witnessing it and our money and weapons supporting it. I don=92t want
to use my name or this project to push my own ideas about this but I
spend a lot of time working and giving away, sharing and receiving to
and from a lot of people.
I=92m only going to ask for one thing here. If you do not agree I
kindly ask you not to use Linux Mint and not to donate money to it.
I hope for these people to be able to live decently in the future and
for me not to have anything to do with the misery they=92re in at the
moment.
I promise not to talk about this anymore. I don=92t want any money or
help coming from Israel or people who support the action of their
current government.
Thank you for your understanding. This is very important to me.
He later moved the message to his personal blog,:
=93I don=92t want any money or help coming from people who support
the actions of the Israeli government.=94
Well, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if anything it
hasn=92t been strong enough against the terrorists who want to destroy
Israel. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mint as having anything
to do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps that Israelis and
Palestinians might work together on the project, bridging the divide.
Not so. If you support Palestine, including Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre
wants your support for Linux Mint. But if you support Israel=92s
defense against Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists, Lefebvre
doesn=92t want you.
One commenter on his personal blog asked:
=93Do you still not want support for Mint from supporters of
Israel=92s government?=94
Lefebvre=92s reply:
=93If I supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to
finance you and to interact with you?=94
Lefebvre does admit to the existence of Palestinian terrorism, but
doesn=92t reject the support of pro-Palestinians, because =93one is
significantly more empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the > other one.=94
Lefebvre sees Israelis as the problem.
=93It=92s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over the
globe complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to
dissociate themselves from them. I don=92t agree with what Israel is
doing and although they=92re forced to take action and defend
themselves I don=92t believe they have their back against the wall
without any other possible alternative.=94
Yes, the Israelis could just lay down and die.
=93So people when joining shoulder to shoulder with other people in
making this operating system better and better you suddenly realise some > of them are actively supporting this, you need to let them know how you
feel.=94
This is not a personal view. Lefebvre is talking about Linux Mint.
He=92s telling those who support Israel=92s actions in self-defense
to go away and not to help him with the project.
I=92m honoring Lefebvre=92s wishes and will no longer use Linux
Mint, which I had come to admire.
Too bad.
(DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, this is purely my own
opinion, and not that of my employer, the North County Times.)
Tags: technology
-- Regards,
Evan M= . Inker
--bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2--
--bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting enough that this post was from 2009. It would have been nice knowing that it was 3 years old
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> http://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D774 > > Support Israel=92s Government? Linux Mint Developer Says Go Away > > Note: Updated with original post retrieved from Google cache, I=92ve > amended my lede to reflect the statement that support from Israel, as > well as those who support the Israeli government, is being rejected. > > By Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. > > Clement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a variant of Ubuntu, > doesn=92t want support from Israel or of those who back the Israeli > government. > > Lefebvre said so on the official blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That > message was removed, but I found it in Google cache (emphasis mine): > > This is not the place to talk about this but I am deeply touched by what > is happening over there. I feel disgust and guilt with us passively > witnessing it and our money and weapons supporting it. I don=92t want > to use my name or this project to push my own ideas about this but I > spend a lot of time working and giving away, sharing and receiving to > and from a lot of people. > > I=92m only going to ask for one thing here. If you do not agree I > kindly ask you not to use Linux Mint and not to donate money to it. > > I hope for these people to be able to live decently in the future and > for me not to have anything to do with the misery they=92re in at the > moment. > > I promise not to talk about this anymore. I don=92t want any money or > help coming from Israel or people who support the action of their > current government. > > Thank you for your understanding. This is very important to me. > > He later moved the message to his personal blog,: > > =93I don=92t want any money or help coming from people who support > the actions of the Israeli government.=94 > > Well, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if anything it > hasn=92t been strong enough against the terrorists who want to destroy > Israel. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mint as having anything > to do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps that Israelis and > Palestinians might work together on the project, bridging the divide. > > Not so. If you support Palestine, including Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre > wants your support for Linux Mint. But if you support Israel=92s > defense against Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists, Lefebvre > doesn=92t want you. > > One commenter on his personal blog asked: > > =93Do you still not want support for Mint from supporters of > Israel=92s government?=94 > > Lefebvre=92s reply: > > =93If I supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to > finance you and to interact with you?=94 > > Lefebvre does admit to the existence of Palestinian terrorism, but > doesn=92t reject the support of pro-Palestinians, because =93one is > significantly more empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the > other one.=94 > > Lefebvre sees Israelis as the problem. > > =93It=92s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over the > globe complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to > dissociate themselves from them. I don=92t agree with what Israel is > doing and although they=92re forced to take action and defend > themselves I don=92t believe they have their back against the wall > without any other possible alternative.=94 > > Yes, the Israelis could just lay down and die. > > =93So people when joining shoulder to shoulder with other people in > making this operating system better and better you suddenly realise some > of them are actively supporting this, you need to let them know how you > feel.=94 > > This is not a personal view. Lefebvre is talking about Linux Mint. > He=92s telling those who support Israel=92s actions in self-defense > to go away and not to help him with the project. > > I=92m honoring Lefebvre=92s wishes and will no longer use Linux > Mint, which I had come to admire. > > Too bad. > > (DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, this is purely my own > opinion, and not that of my employer, the North County Times.) > > Tags: technology >
--=20 Regards,
Evan M. Inker
--bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting enough that this post was from 2009. It would have been nic= e knowing that it was 3 years old
On Tue,= Aug 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Ruben Safir <o:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> w= rote: x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">" target=3D"_blank">http://abriefhistory.org/?p=3D774
Support Israel=92s Government? Linux Mint Developer Says Go Away
Note: Updated with original post retrieved from Google cache, I=92ve
amended my lede to reflect the statement that support from Israel, as
well as those who support the Israeli government, is being rejected.
By Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R.
Clement Lefebvre, the lead developer of Linux Mint, a variant of Ubuntu, > doesn=92t want support from Israel or of those who back the Israeli
government.
Lefebvre said so on the official blog of Linux Mint this weekend. That
message was removed, but I found it in Google cache (emphasis mine):
This is not the place to talk about this but I am deeply touched by what > is happening over there. I feel disgust and guilt with us passively
witnessing it and our money and weapons supporting it. I don=92t want
to use my name or this project to push my own ideas about this but I
spend a lot of time working and giving away, sharing and receiving to
and from a lot of people.
I=92m only going to ask for one thing here. If you do not agree I
kindly ask you not to use Linux Mint and not to donate money to it.
I hope for these people to be able to live decently in the future and
for me not to have anything to do with the misery they=92re in at the
moment.
I promise not to talk about this anymore. I don=92t want any money or
help coming from Israel or people who support the action of their
current government.
Thank you for your understanding. This is very important to me.
He later moved the message to his personal blog,:
=93I don=92t want any money or help coming from people who support
the actions of the Israeli government.=94
Well, I support the actions of the Israeli government; if anything it
hasn=92t been strong enough against the terrorists who want to destroy
Israel. But silly me, I never thought of Linux Mint as having anything
to do with Israel or Palestine, except perhaps that Israelis and
Palestinians might work together on the project, bridging the divide.
Not so. If you support Palestine, including Hamas, welcome. Lefebvre
wants your support for Linux Mint. But if you support Israel=92s
defense against Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists, Lefebvre
doesn=92t want you.
One commenter on his personal blog asked:
=93Do you still not want support for Mint from supporters of
Israel=92s government?=94
Lefebvre=92s reply:
=93If I supported terrorists would you accept me to help you, to
finance you and to interact with you?=94
Lefebvre does admit to the existence of Palestinian terrorism, but
doesn=92t reject the support of pro-Palestinians, because =93one is
significantly more empowered to reach a solution to the problem than the > other one.=94
Lefebvre sees Israelis as the problem.
=93It=92s a moral stand point. You see a lot of people all over the
globe complain about China, Russia, and take individual actions to
dissociate themselves from them. I don=92t agree with what Israel is
doing and although they=92re forced to take action and defend
themselves I don=92t believe they have their back against the wall
without any other possible alternative.=94
Yes, the Israelis could just lay down and die.
=93So people when joining shoulder to shoulder with other people in
making this operating system better and better you suddenly realise some > of them are actively supporting this, you need to let them know how you
feel.=94
This is not a personal view. Lefebvre is talking about Linux Mint.
He=92s telling those who support Israel=92s actions in self-defense
to go away and not to help him with the project.
I=92m honoring Lefebvre=92s wishes and will no longer use Linux
Mint, which I had come to admire.
Too bad.
(DISCLAIMER: As with everything I write here, this is purely my own
opinion, and not that of my employer, the North County Times.)
Tags: technology
-- Regards,
Evan M= . Inker
--bcaec502d83005e25304c6b453c2--
|
|