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| DATE | 2012-03-15 |
| FROM | Paul Robert Marino
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] trying to save NYLUG
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:10:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] trying to save NYLUG
From: Paul Robert Marino
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Cc: NYLXS , Kevin Mark
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I'm having flash backs of when school district 79 asked me if NYLXS had a
PHP curiculum. I mentioned it in the education commitee meeting and Rubin
Evan and I along with every one else there but sunny agreed we should offer
them our perl curiculum but if they insist on PHP we should introduce them
to the right people at nyphp because the already had a curiculum ready to
go and every body would win. Sunnys responce was that Rubin and I were anti
php. I told him if he wanted to write a better curriculum than nyphps the
please do so and well get them to switch to his once it was ready. Sunny
the threw a fit and stomed out saying I wasn't letting him participate
because I hated php and would never come to one of our meetings again.
The best part is he went crying to jay about it, and the next time I ran
into jay all he talked abou is how psyco sunny was for bad mouthing my work
with the schools lol.
I'm amused and disturbed by this whole thing because sunnys antics are
still hilarious but I'm sorry nylug is getting hurt by it.
On Mar 14, 2012 5:05 PM, "Ron Guerin" wrote:
>
> (resent from earlier)
>
> On 03/14/2012 07:45 AM, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:43:11PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >> Kevin Mark wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:22PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Read this. This is why I was putting in the effort.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> so sunny say that he has done TONS for NYLUG unlike ron?
> >>> where sunny says that ron went against NYLUG members by having a
meeting at (evil) M$, but that no one objected?
> >>> or that how sunny said that ron objected to using meetup (but ron
didnt)?
> >>> what is your point?
>
> Sunny said I wanted to hold a meeting at Microsoft over the objections
> of the others. I did say *I* would be willing to meet at Microsoft.
> I'm willing to discuss why, if anyone wants to do that. It's irrelevant
> however as to the question of whether or not I wanted to or tried to
> hold a meeting somewhere over the objections of others. (unless of
> course you count the time we were at IBM and IBM was talking about
> putting DRM into disk drives, but I note Sunny had no outrage about
> meeting at IBM)
>
> The problems with Sunny's assertions are:
>
> 1: I did not want to meet at Microsoft over the objections of anyone.
>
> 2: Sunny (and Brian) have a habit of spinning every time I expressed an
> opinion into some kind of dictatorial offense. It seems everyone else
> is allowed to have an opinion, but I am not.
>
> - Ron
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I'm having flash backs of when school district 79 asked me if NYLXS =
had a PHP curiculum. I mentioned it in the education commitee meeting and R=
ubin Evan and I along with every one else there but sunny agreed we should =
offer them our perl curiculum but if they insist on PHP we should introduce=
them to the right people at nyphp because the already had a curiculum read=
y to go and every body would win. Sunnys responce was that Rubin and I were=
anti php. I told him if he wanted to write a better curriculum than nyphps=
the please do so and well get them to switch to his once it was ready. Sun=
ny the threw a fit and stomed out saying I wasn't letting him participa=
te because I hated php and would never come to one of our meetings again.r>
The best part is he went crying to jay about it, and the next time I ran in=
to jay all he talked abou is how psyco sunny was for bad mouthing my work w=
ith the schools lol.
I'm amused and disturbed by this whole thing because sunnys antics are =
still hilarious but I'm sorry nylug is getting hurt by it.
On Mar 14, 2012 5:05 PM, "Ron Guerin" <n-at-vnetworx.net">ron-at-vnetworx.net> wrote:
>
> (resent from earlier)
>
> On 03/14/2012 07:45 AM, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:43:11PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >> Kevin Mark wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:22PM -0400, Ruben Safir wro=
te:
> >>>
> >>>> Read this. =A0This is why I was putting in the effort=
.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> so sunny say that he has done TONS for NYLUG unlike ron?<=
br>
> >>> where sunny says that ron went against NYLUG members by h=
aving a meeting at (evil) M$, but that no one objected?
> >>> or that how sunny said that ron objected to using meetup =
(but ron didnt)?
> >>> what is your point?
>
> Sunny said I wanted to hold a meeting at Microsoft over the objections=
> of the others. =A0I did say *I* would be willing to meet at Microsoft.=
> I'm willing to discuss why, if anyone wants to do that. =A0It'=
s irrelevant
> however as to the question of whether or not I wanted to or tried tor>
> hold a meeting somewhere over the objections of others. =A0(unless of<=
br>
> course you count the time we were at IBM and IBM was talking about
> putting DRM into disk drives, but I note Sunny had no outrage about>
> meeting at IBM)
>
> The problems with Sunny's assertions are:
>
> 1: I did not want to meet at Microsoft over the objections of anyone.<=
br>
>
> 2: Sunny (and Brian) have a habit of spinning every time I expressed a=
n
> opinion into some kind of dictatorial offense. =A0It seems everyone el=
se
> is allowed to have an opinion, but I am not.
>
> - Ron
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I'm having flash backs of when school district 79 asked me if NYLXS had a
PHP curiculum. I mentioned it in the education commitee meeting and Rubin
Evan and I along with every one else there but sunny agreed we should offer
them our perl curiculum but if they insist on PHP we should introduce them
to the right people at nyphp because the already had a curiculum ready to
go and every body would win. Sunnys responce was that Rubin and I were anti
php. I told him if he wanted to write a better curriculum than nyphps the
please do so and well get them to switch to his once it was ready. Sunny
the threw a fit and stomed out saying I wasn't letting him participate
because I hated php and would never come to one of our meetings again.
The best part is he went crying to jay about it, and the next time I ran
into jay all he talked abou is how psyco sunny was for bad mouthing my work
with the schools lol.
I'm amused and disturbed by this whole thing because sunnys antics are
still hilarious but I'm sorry nylug is getting hurt by it.
On Mar 14, 2012 5:05 PM, "Ron Guerin" wrote:
>
> (resent from earlier)
>
> On 03/14/2012 07:45 AM, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:43:11PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >> Kevin Mark wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:22PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Read this. This is why I was putting in the effort.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> so sunny say that he has done TONS for NYLUG unlike ron?
> >>> where sunny says that ron went against NYLUG members by having a
meeting at (evil) M$, but that no one objected?
> >>> or that how sunny said that ron objected to using meetup (but ron
didnt)?
> >>> what is your point?
>
> Sunny said I wanted to hold a meeting at Microsoft over the objections
> of the others. I did say *I* would be willing to meet at Microsoft.
> I'm willing to discuss why, if anyone wants to do that. It's irrelevant
> however as to the question of whether or not I wanted to or tried to
> hold a meeting somewhere over the objections of others. (unless of
> course you count the time we were at IBM and IBM was talking about
> putting DRM into disk drives, but I note Sunny had no outrage about
> meeting at IBM)
>
> The problems with Sunny's assertions are:
>
> 1: I did not want to meet at Microsoft over the objections of anyone.
>
> 2: Sunny (and Brian) have a habit of spinning every time I expressed an
> opinion into some kind of dictatorial offense. It seems everyone else
> is allowed to have an opinion, but I am not.
>
> - Ron
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I'm having flash backs of when school district 79 asked me if NYLXS =
had a PHP curiculum. I mentioned it in the education commitee meeting and R=
ubin Evan and I along with every one else there but sunny agreed we should =
offer them our perl curiculum but if they insist on PHP we should introduce=
them to the right people at nyphp because the already had a curiculum read=
y to go and every body would win. Sunnys responce was that Rubin and I were=
anti php. I told him if he wanted to write a better curriculum than nyphps=
the please do so and well get them to switch to his once it was ready. Sun=
ny the threw a fit and stomed out saying I wasn't letting him participa=
te because I hated php and would never come to one of our meetings again.r>
The best part is he went crying to jay about it, and the next time I ran in=
to jay all he talked abou is how psyco sunny was for bad mouthing my work w=
ith the schools lol.
I'm amused and disturbed by this whole thing because sunnys antics are =
still hilarious but I'm sorry nylug is getting hurt by it.
On Mar 14, 2012 5:05 PM, "Ron Guerin" <n-at-vnetworx.net">ron-at-vnetworx.net> wrote:
>
> (resent from earlier)
>
> On 03/14/2012 07:45 AM, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:43:11PM -0400, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >> Kevin Mark wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:22PM -0400, Ruben Safir wro=
te:
> >>>
> >>>> Read this. =A0This is why I was putting in the effort=
.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> so sunny say that he has done TONS for NYLUG unlike ron?<=
br>
> >>> where sunny says that ron went against NYLUG members by h=
aving a meeting at (evil) M$, but that no one objected?
> >>> or that how sunny said that ron objected to using meetup =
(but ron didnt)?
> >>> what is your point?
>
> Sunny said I wanted to hold a meeting at Microsoft over the objections=
> of the others. =A0I did say *I* would be willing to meet at Microsoft.=
> I'm willing to discuss why, if anyone wants to do that. =A0It'=
s irrelevant
> however as to the question of whether or not I wanted to or tried tor>
> hold a meeting somewhere over the objections of others. =A0(unless of<=
br>
> course you count the time we were at IBM and IBM was talking about
> putting DRM into disk drives, but I note Sunny had no outrage about>
> meeting at IBM)
>
> The problems with Sunny's assertions are:
>
> 1: I did not want to meet at Microsoft over the objections of anyone.<=
br>
>
> 2: Sunny (and Brian) have a habit of spinning every time I expressed a=
n
> opinion into some kind of dictatorial offense. =A0It seems everyone el=
se
> is allowed to have an opinion, but I am not.
>
> - Ron
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