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Apple did this with the NYC School System twice; first with the Apple IIe a= nd then with the Macs. Their stocks took a nose dive but within a year of g= etting it done, rose up 10-fold. Why? When children and later parents, see = that the children want/need computers that parents bought them for their ch= ildren. there are over 2million children in the NYC school system. Average = it out to 2 children per parent, and that for this round is a potential 750= ,000 iPads sold within the next 2 years and that is in this city alone, exc= luding other areas where iPads can be sold!=0A=0AIts a risk Apple is going = to take and its going to win. If the PC and Android tablets were more unifi= ed, they could match Apple's numbers. But they cant because they wont unify= standards. Apple will be the clear winner in this.=0A=0A=0A=0A____________= ____________________=0A From: Ronny =0ATo: "hangout-at-= mrbrklyn.com" =0ASent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:3= 7 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] It shouldn't happen to a dog=0A =0A= =0AThe money isnt there. For that matter, there is legitimate speculation t= hat Apple itself is going to see their stocks take.a nosedive sometime in t= he coming year or so=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Feb 13, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Elfen Magi= x wrote:=0A=0A=0AIt has never been about education = of technology or the technology of education. I wrote the 250 page doctrine= that put computers in the classroom in 1984. As I stated then, it was abou= t leveling the playing field for children to learn faster than just at thei= r pace. Studies back then showed that the computer being modeled after a TV= , and using students how to use the computer, they get it in their mind tha= t they are controlling the magic screen that they think is the TV, and in d= oing so, they learned at a quicker pace. My First Alphabet had children as = young as 4 reading and achieving a high vocabulary!=0A>=0A>But when you mis= s those basic skills of reading, writings and mathematics; then you have do= ne more harm than good to the child when placing them in front of the compu= ter. Let me give the case of the "Child Prodigy Program"=0A (the CPP) of mi= d 1970s. Created and funded by Edward Teller (That Eward Teller) certain ch= ildren who were highly gifted in specific skills were only taught those ski= lls. If a child excelled in math, then they only taught math to that child.= It became harder and harder to teach children other subjects after two yea= rs of this progam. When funding ended, and the City was in a money crisis, = Mayor Beame killed the program, pushing for the IGC (Intelligently Gifted C= hild) program instead. Nearly all of the CPP children went into the ICG pro= gram, and they were forced to stay away from their gifted skills and to lea= rn everything that they should have been taught in regular classes from the= beginning. Children in the CPP who were multifacetted in their skills, tho= se who had more than one ability did better than those with a single abilit= y. A boy named John, was a mechanical genius, and for the 3 years he was in= the program, they gave him small machines to figure=0A out and if broken -= fix it. With him it got to a point where he repaired a 1600 century clock = and a car's transmission. He was labeled Special Ed because he was minimal = in his regular academic skills. Another child who was Math, Music and Scien= ce skilled, did well enough to graduate from Brooklyn Tech in 1981. He was = me.=0A>=0A>To present date: I was handed what I was told as a severely reta= rded girl. She has a long history of immigration issues even though she and= her brother were born here in the states making them citizens but their pa= rents were illegal. She and her family was deported to Mexico when she was = 6 months old. Add a shlock lawyer trying to make a name for himself and 10 = years in the world court, it was decided that the children have to return t= o the USA, and her parents brought with them as well. Money money damages w= ere awarded as well. During these 10 years, the girl never went to school a= nd worked on a family farm. If she went to any=0A school it was one of thos= e old one room schools with children of many grades in one class. She did s= peak and write Spanish well, but here in NYC she was tested in English and = from her low score, labeled retarded.=0A>=0A>I was given her to teach her o= ne on one to get her to minimal skills. I discovered there was nothing wron= g with the child other than being a Native Spanish speaking person. So I ma= naged to get her back into a normal classroom setting, translating the work= into Spanish for her. At the same time I tutored her in English. Apparentl= y she did so well under me that the school board thought that some form of = cheating was done - here is a girl labeled as retarded going exceptional on= her state wide exams! She was tested and retested, in front of investigato= rs, translators, special education experts, psychologists - you name it the= y were there. She passed every test threw at her and one so called expert d= ared to bring finger print and DNA testing=0A on the girl. When it was expl= ained that I was her teacher, I explained it to them that they fucked up in= called her retarded and has mislabeled her accordingly when she should hav= e been labeled as English Deficient - Native Spanish Language person.=0A>= =0A>Because of this, it makes me wonder how many children are in this posit= ion, how many are left to suffer or things they already in another language= . In working with Arabic kids, I noticed that they do math differently but = always arrive at the same answer as in the textbook way but they are made t= o suffer relearning it the school's way. Putting these children in front of= a computer would do nothing for them. Nothing at all. They require a prope= r assessment and not pigeon holing them into learning deficient categories = when they dont belong there.=0A>=0A>Sometimes its the school's fault in not= providing proper services. Other times its the school board. In the cases = above, its both. It is the school's=0A direction under Bloomberg that kids = are made to suffer. He dont care how the grades are achieved, as long as th= ey are achieved but while not giving the schools the proper materials to do= their jobs. Putting the best kids in the so-called best schools, and the w= orst kids in the worst schools and expect them to be equal on all terms is = a farce. Teachers can only do what they can with what little they got.=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Ruben Safir rklyn-at-panix.com>=0A>To: NYLXS =0A>Sent: Monday, Februar= y 13, 2012 9:47 AM=0A>Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] It shouldn't happen to a d= og=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>Oh GOD=0A>=0A>iBelieve, iCan, iWill, =0A>=0A>I'm fucked!= !!=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/education/mooresville-s= chool-district-a-laptop-success-story.html?hp=3D&pagewanted=3Dall=0A>=0A>Fe= bruary 12, 2012=0A>Mooresville=E2=80=99s Shining Example (It=E2=80=99s Not = Just About the Laptops)=0A>By ALAN SCHWARZ=0A>=0A>MOORESVILLE, N.C. =E2=80= =94 Sixty educators from across the nation roamed=0A>the halls and ringed t= he rooms of East Mooresville Intermediate School,=0A>searching for the secr= et formula. They found it in Erin Holsinger=E2=80=99s=0A>fifth-grade math c= lass.=0A>=0A>There, a boy peering into his school-issued MacBook blitzed th= rough=0A>fractions by himself, determined to reach sixth-grade work by wint= er.=0A>Three desks away, a girl was struggling with basic multiplication = =E2=80=94=0A>only 29 percent=0A right, her screen said =E2=80=94 and Ms. Ho= lsinger knelt=0A>beside her to assist. Curiosity was fed and embarrassment = avoided, as=0A>teacher connected with student through emotion far more than= Wi-Fi.=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CThis is not about the technology,=E2=80=9D Mark Edw= ards, superintendent=0A>of Mooresville Graded School District, would tell t= he visitors later=0A>over lunch. =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s not about the box. I= t=E2=80=99s about changing the=0A>culture of instruction =E2=80=94 preparin= g students for their future, not=0A>our past.=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ---2114655128-1988104086-1329186633=:31587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Apple did this with t= he NYC School System twice; first with the Apple IIe and then with the Macs= . Their stocks took a nose dive but within a year of getting it done, rose = up 10-fold. Why? When children and later parents, see that the children wan= t/need computers that parents bought them for their children. there are ove= r 2million children in the NYC school system. Average it out to 2 children = per parent, and that for this round is a potential 750,000 iPads sold withi= n the next 2 years and that is in this city alone, excluding other areas wh= ere iPads can be sold! Its a risk Apple is going to take and its goi= ng to win. If the PC and Android tablets were more unified, they could matc= h Apple's numbers. But they cant because they wont unify standards. Apple w= ill be the clear winner in this. new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> ly: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> r"> t-weight: bold;">From: Ronny <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> <= b>To: "hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com" = <hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com> Sen= t: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:37 PM weight: bold;">Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] It shouldn't happe= n to a dog =0A Th= e money isnt there. For that matter, there is legitimate speculation that A= pple itself is going to see their stocks take.a nosedive sometime in the co= ming year or so
v style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-= family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">It has neve= r been about education of technology or the technology of education. I wrot= e the 250 page doctrine that put computers in the classroom in 1984. As I s= tated then, it was about leveling the playing field for children to learn f= aster than just at their pace. Studies back then showed that the computer b= eing modeled after a TV, and using students how to use the computer, they get it in their mind that they are controlli= ng the magic screen that they think is the TV, and in doing so, they learne= d at a quicker pace. My First Alphabet had children as young as 4 reading a= nd achieving a high vocabulary!
But when you miss those basic skills= of reading, writings and mathematics; then you have done more harm than go= od to the child when placing them in front of the computer. Let me give the= case of the "Child Prodigy Program"=0A (the CPP) of mid 1970s. Created and= funded by Edward Teller (That Eward Teller) certain children who were high= ly gifted in specific skills were only taught those skills. If a child exce= lled in math, then they only taught math to that child. It became harder an= d harder to teach children other subjects after two years of this progam. W= hen funding ended, and the City was in a money crisis, Mayor Beame killed t= he program, pushing for the IGC (Intelligently Gifted Child) program instea= d. Nearly all of the CPP children went into the ICG program, and they were = forced to stay away from their gifted skills and to learn everything that t= hey should have been taught in regular classes from the beginning. Children= in the CPP who were multifacetted in their skills, those who had more than= one ability did better than those with a single ability. A boy named John,= was a mechanical genius, and for the 3 years he was in the program, they g= ave him small machines to figure=0A out and if broken - fix it. With him it= got to a point where he repaired a 1600 century clock and a car's transmis= sion. He was labeled Special Ed because he was minimal in his regular acade= mic skills. Another child who was Math, Music and Science skilled, did well= enough to graduate from Brooklyn Tech in 1981. He was me.
To presen= t date: I was handed what I was told as a severely retarded girl. She has a= long history of immigration issues even though she and her brother were bo= rn here in the states making them citizens but their parents were illegal. = She and her family was deported to Mexico when she was 6 months old. Add a = shlock lawyer trying to make a name for himself and 10 years in the world c= ourt, it was decided that the children have to return to the USA, and her p= arents brought with them as well. Money money damages were awarded as well.= During these 10 years, the girl never went to school and worked on a famil= y farm. If she went to any=0A school it was one of those old one room schoo= ls with children of many grades in one class. She did speak and write Spani= sh well, but here in NYC she was tested in English and from her low score, = labeled retarded.
I was given her to teach her one on one to get her= to minimal skills. I discovered there was nothing wrong with the child oth= er than being a Native Spanish speaking person. So I managed to get her bac= k into a normal classroom setting, translating the work into Spanish for he= r. At the same time I tutored her in English. Apparently she did so well un= der me that the school board thought that some form of cheating was done - = here is a girl labeled as retarded going exceptional on her state wide exam= s! She was tested and retested, in front of investigators, translators, spe= cial education experts, psychologists - you name it they were there. She pa= ssed every test threw at her and one so called expert dared to bring finger= print and DNA testing=0A on the girl. When it was explained that I was her= teacher, I explained it to them that they fucked up in called her retarded= and has mislabeled her accordingly when she should have been labeled as En= glish Deficient - Native Spanish Language person.
Because of this, i= t makes me wonder how many children are in this position, how many are left= to suffer or things they already in another language. In working with Arab= ic kids, I noticed that they do math differently but always arrive at the s= ame answer as in the textbook way but they are made to suffer relearning it= the school's way. Putting these children in front of a computer would do n= othing for them. Nothing at all. They require a proper assessment and not p= igeon holing them into learning deficient categories when they dont belong = there.
Sometimes its the school's fault in not providing proper serv= ices. Other times its the school board. In the cases above, its both. It is= the school's=0A direction under Bloomberg that kids are made to suffer. He= dont care how the grades are achieved, as long as they are achieved but wh= ile not giving the schools the proper materials to do their jobs. Putting t= he best kids in the so-called best schools, and the worst kids in the worst= schools and expect them to be equal on all terms is a farce. Teachers can = only do what they can with what little they got.
ont-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> tyle=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;= "> = =0A Oh GOD iBelieve, iCan, iWill, I'm fucked!!!<= br> imes.com/2012/02/13/education/mooresville-school-district-a-laptop-success-= story.html?hp=3D&pagewanted=3Dall">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/ed= ucation/mooresville-school-district-a-laptop-success-story.html?hp=3D&p= agewanted=3DallFebruary 12, 2012 Mooresville=E2=80=99s Shini= ng Example (It=E2=80=99s Not Just About the Laptops) By ALAN SCHWARZ = MOORESVILLE, N.C. =E2=80=94 Sixty educators from across the nation roam= ed the halls and ringed the rooms of East Mooresville Intermediate Schoo= l, searching for the secret formula. They found it in Erin Holsinger=E2= =80=99s fifth-grade math class. There, a boy peering into his sch= ool-issued MacBook blitzed through fractions by himself, determined to r= each sixth-grade work by winter. Three desks away, a girl was struggling= with basic multiplication =E2=80=94 only 29 percent=0A right, her screen said =E2=80=94 and Ms. Holsinger knelt = beside her to assist. Curiosity was fed and embarrassment avoided, as te= acher connected with student through emotion far more than Wi-Fi. = =E2=80=9CThis is not about the technology,=E2=80=9D Mark Edwards, superinte= ndent of Mooresville Graded School District, would tell the visitors lat= er over lunch. =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s not about the box. It=E2=80=99s abo= ut changing the culture of instruction =E2=80=94 preparing students for = their future, not our past.=E2=80=9D v>
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Apple did this with the NYC School System twice; first with the Apple IIe a= nd then with the Macs. Their stocks took a nose dive but within a year of g= etting it done, rose up 10-fold. Why? When children and later parents, see = that the children want/need computers that parents bought them for their ch= ildren. there are over 2million children in the NYC school system. Average = it out to 2 children per parent, and that for this round is a potential 750= ,000 iPads sold within the next 2 years and that is in this city alone, exc= luding other areas where iPads can be sold!=0A=0AIts a risk Apple is going = to take and its going to win. If the PC and Android tablets were more unifi= ed, they could match Apple's numbers. But they cant because they wont unify= standards. Apple will be the clear winner in this.=0A=0A=0A=0A____________= ____________________=0A From: Ronny =0ATo: "hangout-at-= mrbrklyn.com" =0ASent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:3= 7 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] It shouldn't happen to a dog=0A =0A= =0AThe money isnt there. For that matter, there is legitimate speculation t= hat Apple itself is going to see their stocks take.a nosedive sometime in t= he coming year or so=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Feb 13, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Elfen Magi= x wrote:=0A=0A=0AIt has never been about education = of technology or the technology of education. I wrote the 250 page doctrine= that put computers in the classroom in 1984. As I stated then, it was abou= t leveling the playing field for children to learn faster than just at thei= r pace. Studies back then showed that the computer being modeled after a TV= , and using students how to use the computer, they get it in their mind tha= t they are controlling the magic screen that they think is the TV, and in d= oing so, they learned at a quicker pace. My First Alphabet had children as = young as 4 reading and achieving a high vocabulary!=0A>=0A>But when you mis= s those basic skills of reading, writings and mathematics; then you have do= ne more harm than good to the child when placing them in front of the compu= ter. Let me give the case of the "Child Prodigy Program"=0A (the CPP) of mi= d 1970s. Created and funded by Edward Teller (That Eward Teller) certain ch= ildren who were highly gifted in specific skills were only taught those ski= lls. If a child excelled in math, then they only taught math to that child.= It became harder and harder to teach children other subjects after two yea= rs of this progam. When funding ended, and the City was in a money crisis, = Mayor Beame killed the program, pushing for the IGC (Intelligently Gifted C= hild) program instead. Nearly all of the CPP children went into the ICG pro= gram, and they were forced to stay away from their gifted skills and to lea= rn everything that they should have been taught in regular classes from the= beginning. Children in the CPP who were multifacetted in their skills, tho= se who had more than one ability did better than those with a single abilit= y. A boy named John, was a mechanical genius, and for the 3 years he was in= the program, they gave him small machines to figure=0A out and if broken -= fix it. With him it got to a point where he repaired a 1600 century clock = and a car's transmission. He was labeled Special Ed because he was minimal = in his regular academic skills. Another child who was Math, Music and Scien= ce skilled, did well enough to graduate from Brooklyn Tech in 1981. He was = me.=0A>=0A>To present date: I was handed what I was told as a severely reta= rded girl. She has a long history of immigration issues even though she and= her brother were born here in the states making them citizens but their pa= rents were illegal. She and her family was deported to Mexico when she was = 6 months old. Add a shlock lawyer trying to make a name for himself and 10 = years in the world court, it was decided that the children have to return t= o the USA, and her parents brought with them as well. Money money damages w= ere awarded as well. During these 10 years, the girl never went to school a= nd worked on a family farm. If she went to any=0A school it was one of thos= e old one room schools with children of many grades in one class. She did s= peak and write Spanish well, but here in NYC she was tested in English and = from her low score, labeled retarded.=0A>=0A>I was given her to teach her o= ne on one to get her to minimal skills. I discovered there was nothing wron= g with the child other than being a Native Spanish speaking person. So I ma= naged to get her back into a normal classroom setting, translating the work= into Spanish for her. At the same time I tutored her in English. Apparentl= y she did so well under me that the school board thought that some form of = cheating was done - here is a girl labeled as retarded going exceptional on= her state wide exams! She was tested and retested, in front of investigato= rs, translators, special education experts, psychologists - you name it the= y were there. She passed every test threw at her and one so called expert d= ared to bring finger print and DNA testing=0A on the girl. When it was expl= ained that I was her teacher, I explained it to them that they fucked up in= called her retarded and has mislabeled her accordingly when she should hav= e been labeled as English Deficient - Native Spanish Language person.=0A>= =0A>Because of this, it makes me wonder how many children are in this posit= ion, how many are left to suffer or things they already in another language= . In working with Arabic kids, I noticed that they do math differently but = always arrive at the same answer as in the textbook way but they are made t= o suffer relearning it the school's way. Putting these children in front of= a computer would do nothing for them. Nothing at all. They require a prope= r assessment and not pigeon holing them into learning deficient categories = when they dont belong there.=0A>=0A>Sometimes its the school's fault in not= providing proper services. Other times its the school board. In the cases = above, its both. It is the school's=0A direction under Bloomberg that kids = are made to suffer. He dont care how the grades are achieved, as long as th= ey are achieved but while not giving the schools the proper materials to do= their jobs. Putting the best kids in the so-called best schools, and the w= orst kids in the worst schools and expect them to be equal on all terms is = a farce. Teachers can only do what they can with what little they got.=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Ruben Safir rklyn-at-panix.com>=0A>To: NYLXS =0A>Sent: Monday, Februar= y 13, 2012 9:47 AM=0A>Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] It shouldn't happen to a d= og=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>Oh GOD=0A>=0A>iBelieve, iCan, iWill, =0A>=0A>I'm fucked!= !!=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/education/mooresville-s= chool-district-a-laptop-success-story.html?hp=3D&pagewanted=3Dall=0A>=0A>Fe= bruary 12, 2012=0A>Mooresville=E2=80=99s Shining Example (It=E2=80=99s Not = Just About the Laptops)=0A>By ALAN SCHWARZ=0A>=0A>MOORESVILLE, N.C. =E2=80= =94 Sixty educators from across the nation roamed=0A>the halls and ringed t= he rooms of East Mooresville Intermediate School,=0A>searching for the secr= et formula. They found it in Erin Holsinger=E2=80=99s=0A>fifth-grade math c= lass.=0A>=0A>There, a boy peering into his school-issued MacBook blitzed th= rough=0A>fractions by himself, determined to reach sixth-grade work by wint= er.=0A>Three desks away, a girl was struggling with basic multiplication = =E2=80=94=0A>only 29 percent=0A right, her screen said =E2=80=94 and Ms. Ho= lsinger knelt=0A>beside her to assist. Curiosity was fed and embarrassment = avoided, as=0A>teacher connected with student through emotion far more than= Wi-Fi.=0A>=0A>=E2=80=9CThis is not about the technology,=E2=80=9D Mark Edw= ards, superintendent=0A>of Mooresville Graded School District, would tell t= he visitors later=0A>over lunch. =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s not about the box. I= t=E2=80=99s about changing the=0A>culture of instruction =E2=80=94 preparin= g students for their future, not=0A>our past.=E2=80=9D=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> ---2114655128-1988104086-1329186633=:31587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Apple did this with t= he NYC School System twice; first with the Apple IIe and then with the Macs= . Their stocks took a nose dive but within a year of getting it done, rose = up 10-fold. Why? When children and later parents, see that the children wan= t/need computers that parents bought them for their children. there are ove= r 2million children in the NYC school system. Average it out to 2 children = per parent, and that for this round is a potential 750,000 iPads sold withi= n the next 2 years and that is in this city alone, excluding other areas wh= ere iPads can be sold! Its a risk Apple is going to take and its goi= ng to win. If the PC and Android tablets were more unified, they could matc= h Apple's numbers. But they cant because they wont unify standards. Apple w= ill be the clear winner in this. new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> ly: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> r"> t-weight: bold;">From: Ronny <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> <= b>To: "hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com" = <hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com> Sen= t: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:37 PM weight: bold;">Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] It shouldn't happe= n to a dog =0A Th= e money isnt there. For that matter, there is legitimate speculation that A= pple itself is going to see their stocks take.a nosedive sometime in the co= ming year or so
v style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-= family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">It has neve= r been about education of technology or the technology of education. I wrot= e the 250 page doctrine that put computers in the classroom in 1984. As I s= tated then, it was about leveling the playing field for children to learn f= aster than just at their pace. Studies back then showed that the computer b= eing modeled after a TV, and using students how to use the computer, they get it in their mind that they are controlli= ng the magic screen that they think is the TV, and in doing so, they learne= d at a quicker pace. My First Alphabet had children as young as 4 reading a= nd achieving a high vocabulary!
But when you miss those basic skills= of reading, writings and mathematics; then you have done more harm than go= od to the child when placing them in front of the computer. Let me give the= case of the "Child Prodigy Program"=0A (the CPP) of mid 1970s. Created and= funded by Edward Teller (That Eward Teller) certain children who were high= ly gifted in specific skills were only taught those skills. If a child exce= lled in math, then they only taught math to that child. It became harder an= d harder to teach children other subjects after two years of this progam. W= hen funding ended, and the City was in a money crisis, Mayor Beame killed t= he program, pushing for the IGC (Intelligently Gifted Child) program instea= d. Nearly all of the CPP children went into the ICG program, and they were = forced to stay away from their gifted skills and to learn everything that t= hey should have been taught in regular classes from the beginning. Children= in the CPP who were multifacetted in their skills, those who had more than= one ability did better than those with a single ability. A boy named John,= was a mechanical genius, and for the 3 years he was in the program, they g= ave him small machines to figure=0A out and if broken - fix it. With him it= got to a point where he repaired a 1600 century clock and a car's transmis= sion. He was labeled Special Ed because he was minimal in his regular acade= mic skills. Another child who was Math, Music and Science skilled, did well= enough to graduate from Brooklyn Tech in 1981. He was me.
To presen= t date: I was handed what I was told as a severely retarded girl. She has a= long history of immigration issues even though she and her brother were bo= rn here in the states making them citizens but their parents were illegal. = She and her family was deported to Mexico when she was 6 months old. Add a = shlock lawyer trying to make a name for himself and 10 years in the world c= ourt, it was decided that the children have to return to the USA, and her p= arents brought with them as well. Money money damages were awarded as well.= During these 10 years, the girl never went to school and worked on a famil= y farm. If she went to any=0A school it was one of those old one room schoo= ls with children of many grades in one class. She did speak and write Spani= sh well, but here in NYC she was tested in English and from her low score, = labeled retarded.
I was given her to teach her one on one to get her= to minimal skills. I discovered there was nothing wrong with the child oth= er than being a Native Spanish speaking person. So I managed to get her bac= k into a normal classroom setting, translating the work into Spanish for he= r. At the same time I tutored her in English. Apparently she did so well un= der me that the school board thought that some form of cheating was done - = here is a girl labeled as retarded going exceptional on her state wide exam= s! She was tested and retested, in front of investigators, translators, spe= cial education experts, psychologists - you name it they were there. She pa= ssed every test threw at her and one so called expert dared to bring finger= print and DNA testing=0A on the girl. When it was explained that I was her= teacher, I explained it to them that they fucked up in called her retarded= and has mislabeled her accordingly when she should have been labeled as En= glish Deficient - Native Spanish Language person.
Because of this, i= t makes me wonder how many children are in this position, how many are left= to suffer or things they already in another language. In working with Arab= ic kids, I noticed that they do math differently but always arrive at the s= ame answer as in the textbook way but they are made to suffer relearning it= the school's way. Putting these children in front of a computer would do n= othing for them. Nothing at all. They require a proper assessment and not p= igeon holing them into learning deficient categories when they dont belong = there.
Sometimes its the school's fault in not providing proper serv= ices. Other times its the school board. In the cases above, its both. It is= the school's=0A direction under Bloomberg that kids are made to suffer. He= dont care how the grades are achieved, as long as they are achieved but wh= ile not giving the schools the proper materials to do their jobs. Putting t= he best kids in the so-called best schools, and the worst kids in the worst= schools and expect them to be equal on all terms is a farce. Teachers can = only do what they can with what little they got.
ont-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> tyle=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;= "> = =0A Oh GOD iBelieve, iCan, iWill, I'm fucked!!!<= br> imes.com/2012/02/13/education/mooresville-school-district-a-laptop-success-= story.html?hp=3D&pagewanted=3Dall">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/ed= ucation/mooresville-school-district-a-laptop-success-story.html?hp=3D&p= agewanted=3DallFebruary 12, 2012 Mooresville=E2=80=99s Shini= ng Example (It=E2=80=99s Not Just About the Laptops) By ALAN SCHWARZ = MOORESVILLE, N.C. =E2=80=94 Sixty educators from across the nation roam= ed the halls and ringed the rooms of East Mooresville Intermediate Schoo= l, searching for the secret formula. They found it in Erin Holsinger=E2= =80=99s fifth-grade math class. There, a boy peering into his sch= ool-issued MacBook blitzed through fractions by himself, determined to r= each sixth-grade work by winter. Three desks away, a girl was struggling= with basic multiplication =E2=80=94 only 29 percent=0A right, her screen said =E2=80=94 and Ms. Holsinger knelt = beside her to assist. Curiosity was fed and embarrassment avoided, as te= acher connected with student through emotion far more than Wi-Fi. = =E2=80=9CThis is not about the technology,=E2=80=9D Mark Edwards, superinte= ndent of Mooresville Graded School District, would tell the visitors lat= er over lunch. =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s not about the box. It=E2=80=99s abo= ut changing the culture of instruction =E2=80=94 preparing students for = their future, not our past.=E2=80=9D v>
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