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DATE 2011-04-06
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop, Linked List Workshop - usenet article.
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From: Yannick Tremblay
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Destructors can copying objects
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:12:43 +0000 (UTC)
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On 2011-04-05, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> But I'm distressed at this point because I don't want two copies of
> all
> the nodes. I want one series of nodes, which are created in free
> memory
> on the stack, handled in all possible scopes. The nodes themselves
> are
> 'self aware" of their positions in the list in that they have the
> information of they're position in the nodes. The List object itself
> does nothing more that communicate with the nodes. If I copy the List
> Object, I don't want to duplicate the nodes as well. They're on the
> heap, and then can stay there.

Are you sure about the behaviour you want?

You have a List.
The list contains Nodes.
The Nodes contain a pointer to some data.

What behaviour do you want when you copy a list?

What behavious do you want when you copy a node?

What behaviour do you want when you destroy a list?

What behaviour do you want when you destroy a node?

Don't worry about optimization for now. Worry about correctness and
consistency.

Does the Node own the data it points to?
- If yes: then the node most delete the data when the node gets
destroyed
- If no: the node only refers to the data that is external. The node
can go away without affecting the data. Lifetime management of the
data is done separately.

Should modifying a copy of a list affect the original list?
List list1;
// add ten element to list1;
assert(list1.size() == 10);
List list2 = list1; // Create a copy
assert(list2.size() == list1.size()); // definite at this point

// remove 2 element from list2
assert(list2.size() == 8);

// What about list1? Should it still contain 10 elements or 8?

Does the list owns the nodes it contains?

etc.

  1. 2011-04-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  2. 2011-04-01 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  3. 2011-04-02 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Work
  4. 2011-04-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Work
  5. 2011-04-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  6. 2011-04-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: double deletes C++ Workshop
  7. 2011-04-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [pasa-at-lib.hu: Re: [accu-general] Who uses C?]
  8. 2011-04-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop Calendar
  9. 2011-04-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop, Linked List Workshop - usenet article.
  10. 2011-04-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Slackware news
  11. 2011-04-07 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Slackware news
  12. 2011-04-07 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Slackware news
  13. 2011-04-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jan.vipin-at-gmail.com: Re: Query about C++ Workshop]
  14. 2011-04-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop Calendar
  15. 2011-04-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hardware
  16. 2011-04-10 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hardware
  17. 2011-04-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  18. 2011-04-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop
  19. 2011-04-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop templated operator()<<]
  20. 2011-04-12 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday April 12 6:00PM-8:00PM
  21. 2011-04-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [billy.donahue-at-gmail.com: Re: templated operator()<<]
  22. 2011-04-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop Template, claass and function specialization
  23. 2011-04-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop const
  24. 2011-04-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table TOMORROW, Saturday April 16 10-11 PM (streaming live)
  25. 2011-04-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table Canceled
  26. 2011-04-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop reminder
  27. 2011-04-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Peasach
  28. 2011-04-19 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Peasach
  29. 2011-04-19 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Peasach
  30. 2011-04-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [nbs-at-sonic.net: [vox] Fwd: Programmng the Kernel...]
  31. 2011-04-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] No Workshop tonight
  32. 2011-04-26 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, Python) Tuesday April 26 6:00PM-8:00PM
  33. 2011-04-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 5/18 -at- 6:30PM Cameron L. Fadjo on Construct, Program, Design: Exploring Scratch From the Perspective of Computational Thinking and Cognition
  34. 2011-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 5/18 -at- 6:30PM Cameron L. Fadjo
  35. 2011-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 5/18 -at- 6:30PM Cameron L. Fadjo
  36. 2011-04-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free Software Round Table TOMORROW, Saturday April 30 10-11 PM (streaming live)
  37. 2011-04-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Presents: 5/18 -at- 6:30PM Cameron L. Fadjo
  38. 2011-04-29 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bellingham's LinuxFest Northwest
  39. 2011-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bellingham's LinuxFest Northwest
  40. 2011-04-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - New Webservices with OKWS - Sunday evening

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