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MESSAGE
DATE 2010-12-28
FROM Michael L Richardson
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
I am all for the 51st State. With Brooklyn, Queens being their own cites.

On 12/28/2010 10:41 AM, phantom21-at-mindspring.com wrote:
> I've always thought Staten Island should secede from NYC/NS and become a part of NJ.
>
> Then, NYC and Long Island secede from NYS and become a state unto itself.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Michael L Richardson
>> Sent: Dec 28, 2010 10:02 AM
>> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
>> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
>>
>> Can Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island succeed from New York City, and
>> New York State?
>>
>> On 12/28/2010 9:42 AM, phantom21-at-mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>>> The blind eye wasn't just for Brooklyn. Most streets here in Queens (at least here in Ridgewood) haven't seen one touch of a plow, and there are drifts 3 feet high.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Ruben Safir
>>>> Sent: Dec 28, 2010 2:12 AM
>>>> To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
>>>> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
>>>>
>>>> ~
>>>> Snow job! Brooklyn pols blast lackluster storm response
>>>> Brooklyn pols blast city for lackluster storm response
>>>>
>>>> By Gary Buiso
>>>> Monday, December 27, 2010 11:09 PM EST
>>>> Comment (No comments posted.) Email To a Friend
>>>>
>>>> Brooklyn received a one-two punch on Monday — first when Mother
>>>> Nature pummeled us with the sixth-largest snowstorm ever, then when City
>>>> Hall didn’t do enough to clear the streets of the most-important
>>>> borough.
>>>>
>>>> The blizzard that dumped two feet of snow ended in the wee hours on
>>>> Monday, but hundreds of streets throughout Brooklyn remained untouched
>>>> by city plows all day, stranding and endangering residents, and
>>>> infuriating critics.
>>>>
>>>> And elevated subway tracks — common in Brooklyn, though virtually
>>>> unheard of in Manhattan — were rendered impassable all day long
>>>> (though limited service on the F line was restored by 10:30 pm and was
>>>> expected to be available for Tuesday’s rush hour).
>>>>
>>>> “This isn’t the worst storm we’ve ever had, but it seems to
>>>> be the worst response to any major storm in recent memory,” said
>>>> Councilman Steve Levin (D–Williamsburg).
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, much of Brooklyn remained inaccessible by public or private
>>>> transportation. Major arteries, such as Nassau Avenue in Greenpoint and
>>>> Fourth Avenue in Park Slope were impassable.
>>>>
>>>> And Southern Brooklyn was no better off.
>>>>
>>>> “Here, in the ‘outer-boroughs,’ we are used to being the
>>>> step-children of Manhattan and waiting for available plows, but there
>>>> are major streets in my district that haven’t see a plow at
>>>> all,” Councilman David Greenfield (D–Midwood) said around
>>>> midday. “I’ve never seen such a wholesale failure of government
>>>> to provide basic services.”
>>>>
>>>> Borough President Markowitz agreed. “I would doubt the Upper East
>>>> Side is like this. Or the Upper West Side for that matter,” he said.
>>>>
>>>> “Something happened in this snowstorm that we got behind the curve.
>>>> Something came up short, and Brooklyn … took the brunt of it.”
>>>>
>>>> But Sanitation officials saw things differently.
>>>>
>>>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>>> “There is no difference for any borough,” said agency spokesman
>>>> Keith Mellis. “It’s the same plan we use for the entire
>>>> city.”
>>>>
>>>> The city insisted that the culprit was simply the storm’s ferocity,
>>>> though abandoned cars at a variety of intersections didn’t help the
>>>> clean-up effort.
>>>>
>>>> At the intersection of Fifth Avenue and 21st Street in the South Slope,
>>>> for example, a traffic jam of abandoned cars imprisoned a plow,
>>>> rendering the vehicle impotent.
>>>>
>>>> The same scene played out down in Midwood, on Avenue N and East 13th
>>>> Street.
>>>>
>>>> “I don’t want to hit the parked cars,” a Sanitation worker
>>>> told our photographer on a side street, explaining why he didn’t
>>>> risk moving down the narrow road.
>>>>
>>>> The agency said it assembled 365 salt spreaders, 1,700 plows and 2,000
>>>> workers to clean up the mess. Meanwhile, Mayor Bloomberg didn’t
>>>> exactly feel the borough’s pain, saying at a Monday news conference
>>>> that “the world has not come to an end.”
>>>>
>>>> “The city’s going on,” he added. “Many people are taking
>>>> the day off. Most stores are open. There’s no reason for anyone to
>>>> panic.”
>>>>
>>>> At press time, no weather-related deaths have been reported. The roof of
>>>> a parking garage on Second Street in Park Slope collapsed because of the
>>>> snow, shutting down Fourth Avenue from Atlantic Avenue to Eighth Street.
>>>>
>>>> And things weren’t all bad. At least not for WR Hardware on
>>>> Manhattan Avenue in Greenpoint, where White Monday became Black Friday.
>>>>
>>>> “People were lined up in front of the door this morning,” said
>>>> manager Martin G, whose hottest sellers were ice choppers, shovels,
>>>> window-washing fluid and salt. A snowstorm “always helps,” he
>>>> added.
>>>>
>>>> And in Gowanus, fresh air was a welcome respite from the familiar, fetid
>>>> odor arising from the polluted Gowanus Canal.
>>>>
>>>> “This is one of those rare occasions that you can’t smell the
>>>> stink,” said President Street resident Linda Mariano.
>>>>
>>>> Brooklyn’s business hub — the Metrotech complex, which includes
>>>> the Community Newspaper Group Building — was all but abandoned, save
>>>> for a handful of hurried pedestrians, and a small boy with plastic bags
>>>> strangely tied over his winter boots, frolicking in a massive snowdrift.
>>>>
>>>> Train service was suspended in much of southern Brooklyn, trapping the
>>>> area in a snowy isolation.
>>>>
>>>> “We haven’t been plowed and we can’t get out,” said
>>>> Edith Storch, a resident of Sea Gate, a private community near Coney
>>>> Island, that is without public transportation altogether. “I
>>>> don’t see my way out of here. We were praying we don’t need
>>>> medical care.”
>>>>
>>>> Transit spokeswoman Deirdre Parker said the storm scuttled the
>>>> agency’s pre-blizzard preparations, which included moving trains
>>>>
>>>>
>>> >from outdoor yards to enclosed areas.
>>>
>>>
>>>> “It just overwhelmed our equipment,” she said. Ice on the
>>>> electrified rail stalled trains, some as long as seven hours. “We
>>>> had snow blowers, but at some point during a blizzard, it just blows
>>>> right back.”
>>>>
>>>> Suspended train service meant a rare day of silence for those living
>>>> adjacent to the elevated tracks.
>>>>
>>>> “It’s very quiet here today,” said Barbara Donnelly, who has
>>>> lived on E. 15th Street and Avenue P, near the Q and B trains, for the
>>>> past 55 years. “It seems strange without them.”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
> I've always
>
>

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  89. 2010-12-29 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
  90. 2010-12-29 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Michael L Richardson recognized as BROOKLYN
  91. 2010-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
  92. 2010-12-29 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
  93. 2010-12-29 From: "Ron Guerin" <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
  94. 2010-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
  95. 2010-12-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mayor Turns a blind Eye to Brooklyn
  96. 2010-12-30 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Aaron Zelman 1946-2010

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