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DATE | 2010-11-22 |
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Nov 22 17:55:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id E1F71DD80F; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:55:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id C4834DD860; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:55:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com (mail-ew0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5242DD80F for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so3939064ewy.17 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:54:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mhmlbty0C18uOMW7ZkMeiMafNntEXC5LgpeNrUDaMYw=; b=szrf9dEsL3Yoi9wB/i4U0jAvPhkCIVlgQ/AqnvT+KRYutD0hQy81dLSuVZgbjkr4ya IgpYNT13CF0w9mKEnISOj3ue1J53BgelTSOZuQsrdf7zylrj5GL30pQSJ34DTdk6r1Ct C00FjtEG62uVBHR7nHi6VtwMrBPSx9/9mpUAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BjJdEIlBNUQZqRmkrBjBme0bUE1YpBj7kxaKMwd0QQ243LtEa8PQKjAwMLplbdBQZx HTKEXoREzmLT+/txc8sbS0ycyNtb8VDrrP7p7LcHBY6QSwuoFoBERBH5P4sFl9wlkICU Z3/dW3i3Ys0DAKLWw0I6CFLZ6/f/RJnPYU9uA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.17.146 with SMTP id s18mr1634316eba.86.1290466474613; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.19.133 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:54:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4ceaeabd.1245960a.38e8.1200-at-mx.google.com> References: <4ceaeabd.1245960a.38e8.1200-at-mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:54:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] "Novell also plans to sell some intellectual property assets for $450 million to a consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft." Argh! From: einker To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3642d05cdd0495ac2320 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Rob,
That was my thinking as well. I am heading for BSDland with current copies of FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> If you remember earlier this year I predicted that based on microsofts > activity that we could expect to see a linux version of Microsoft Office > shortly after Samba 4 became stable. Well this ties right into it. Yes the > idea of a "MS Linux" does not supprise me at this point, although it does > disturb me. The thing that I'm realy woried about is microsoft owning all of > novels copyrights and patents. If you remember back to the days of the sco > law suit the thing that saved Linux in the courts was the fact that the code > in question was actualy owned by novel and ibm bribed novel to get involved > on the side of linux by giving them SuSE. it may not just be time to find a > new distro but a new kernel. Any one know how HURD development is going > these days? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: einker > Subj: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] "Novell also plans to sell some intellectual > property assets for $450 million to a consortium of technology companies > organized by Microsoft." Argh! > Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm > Size: 2K > To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com > > All Suse users are now officially screwed .... > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:32 PM, swd wrote: > > > The end if openSuse?... > > > > > > > http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/novell-to-be-sold-for-2-2-billion/?hp > > w > > > > November 22, 2010, 8:56 am > > Novell Being Acquired for $2.2 Billion > > By EVELYN M. RUSLI > > > > 9:58 a.m. | Updated > > Novell, the software maker, said on Monday that it had agreed to be > > acquired > > by the Attachmate Corporation for $2.2 billion in cash. > > > > Novell also plans to sell some intellectual property assets for $450 > > million > > to a consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft. > > Attachmate's > > takeover is contingent on the successful closing of the sale. > > > > Novell, a company that specializes in enterprise infrastructure software, > > will add to Attachmate's portfolio of software brands, which includes its > > namesake line and NetIQ (acquired in 2006). Attachmate has effectively > > served as an acquisition vehicle, led by a trio of private equity firms: > > Francisco Partners, Golden Gate Capital and Thoma Bravo. In 2005, the > > investment team purchased Attachmate for an undisclosed sum and > immediately > > merged it with an earlier buyout, WRQ. > > > > The offer of $6.10 a share represents a premium of 28 percent above > > Novell's > > closing share price on March 2, Novell said in its statement. That is > when > > the hedge fund Elliott Associates said said it had offered to buy the > > company for $5.75 a share, or $2 billion - an offer that the board of > > Novell > > rejected as "inadequate." > > Under this new deal, Elliott will stay on as an equity shareholder of > > Attachmate, according to the news release. > > The offer is a 9.1 percent premium from Novell's closing stock price on > > Friday. > > > > Although the deal represents a premium for Novell shareholders, some > > analysts say the transaction highlights the challenge of putting a > > sprawling > > company like Novell on the auction block. The Novell deal stands in > > contrast > > to the rest of the technology sector, which has had a wave of mergers and > > acquisitions this year, often at rich premiums, Richard Williams, an > > analyst > > for Cross Research, said. The value of third quarter deals rose 48 > percent > > from the year-ago period, according to a recent report by Ernst & Young. > > > > "I'm surprised the deal got done," Mark Schappel, a Benchmark Capital > > senior > > software analyst said. "Novell is a very difficult deal to get done, > > there's > > a lot of moving parts." > > Even though a lot of players were in the market, none of them wanted all > of > > Novell, he said. > > > > Founded in 1983, Novell rose to prominence for its network operating > > system, > > Netware. However, in the mid-1990s, the company started to make > > acquisitions > > to become more competitive in the enterprise space, picking up companies > > like Cambridge Technology Partners, Unix System, SilverStream Software , > > Ximian and SUSE, a linux > --- message truncated --- > >
-- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Rob,
That was my thinking as well. I am heading for BSDland with cur= rent copies of FreeBSD and OpenBSD.=A0=A0
">On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino <= ;prmarino1-at-gmail.com> = wrote: r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">If you remember e= arlier this year I predicted that based on microsofts activity that we coul= d expect to see a linux version of Microsoft Office shortly after Samba 4 b= ecame stable. Well this ties right into it. Yes the idea of a "MS Linu= x" does not supprise me at this point, although it does disturb me. Th= e thing that I'm realy woried about is microsoft owning all of novels c= opyrights and patents. If you remember back to the days of the sco law suit= the thing that saved Linux in the courts was the fact that the code in que= stion was actualy owned by novel and ibm bribed novel to get involved on th= e side of linux by giving them SuSE. it may not just be time to find a new = distro but a new kernel. Any one know how HURD development is going these d= ays?
-----Original Message----- From: =A0einker < eminker-at-gmail.com<= /a>>
Subj: =A0Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] "Novell also plans to sell some intelle= ctual property assets for $450 million to a consortium of technology compan= ies organized by Microsoft." Argh!
Date: =A0Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm
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To: =A0hangout-at-mrbrklyn.comAll Suse users are now officially screwed .... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:32 PM, swd < ne.net">sderrick-at-optonline.net> wrote: > The end if openSuse?... > > > r-2-2-billion/?hp" target=3D"_blank">http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/11/22= /novell-to-be-sold-for-2-2-billion/?hp> w > > =A0November 22, 2010, 8:56 am > Novell Being Acquired for $2.2 Billion > By EVELYN M. RUSLI > > 9:58 a.m. | Updated > Novell, the software maker, said on Monday that it had agreed to be > > acquired > by the Attachmate Corporation for $2.2 billion in cash. > > Novell also plans to sell some intellectual property assets for $450 r> > million
> to a consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft.
> Attachmate's
> takeover is contingent on the successful closing of the sale.
>
> Novell, a company that specializes in enterprise infrastructure softwa= re,
> will add to Attachmate's portfolio of software brands, which inclu= des its
> namesake line and NetIQ (acquired in 2006). Attachmate has effectively=
> served as an acquisition vehicle, led by a trio of private equity firm= s:
> Francisco Partners, Golden Gate Capital and Thoma Bravo. In 2005, the<= br> > investment team purchased Attachmate for an undisclosed sum and immedi= ately
> merged it with an earlier buyout, WRQ.
>
> The offer of $6.10 a share represents a premium of 28 percent above > > Novell's
> closing share price on March 2, Novell said in its statement. That is = when
> the hedge fund Elliott Associates said said it had offered to buy the<= br> > company for $5.75 a share, or $2 billion - an offer that the board of<= br> > Novell
> rejected as "inadequate."
> Under this new deal, Elliott will stay on as an equity shareholder of<= br> > Attachmate, according to the news release.
> The offer is a 9.1 percent premium from Novell's closing stock pri= ce on
> Friday.
>
> Although the deal represents a premium for Novell shareholders, somer> > analysts say the transaction highlights the challenge of putting a
> sprawling
> company like Novell on the auction block. The Novell deal stands in > > contrast
> to the rest of the technology sector, which has had a wave of mergers = and
> acquisitions this year, often at rich premiums, Richard Williams, anr> > analyst
> for Cross Research, said. The value of third quarter deals rose 48 per= cent
> from the year-ago period, according to a recent report by Ernst & = Young.
>
> "I'm surprised the deal got done," Mark Schappel, a Benc= hmark Capital
> senior
> software analyst said. "Novell is a very difficult deal to get do= ne,
> there's
> a lot of moving parts."
> Even though a lot of players were in the market, none of them wanted a= ll of
> Novell, he said.
>
> Founded in 1983, Novell rose to prominence for its network operatingr> > system,
> Netware. However, in the mid-1990s, the company started to make
> acquisitions
> to become more competitive in the enterprise space, picking up compani= es
> like Cambridge Technology Partners, Unix System, SilverStream Software= ,
> Ximian and SUSE, a linux
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-- Regards,
Evan M= . Inker
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Rob,
That was my thinking as well. I am heading for BSDland with current copies of FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> If you remember earlier this year I predicted that based on microsofts > activity that we could expect to see a linux version of Microsoft Office > shortly after Samba 4 became stable. Well this ties right into it. Yes the > idea of a "MS Linux" does not supprise me at this point, although it does > disturb me. The thing that I'm realy woried about is microsoft owning all of > novels copyrights and patents. If you remember back to the days of the sco > law suit the thing that saved Linux in the courts was the fact that the code > in question was actualy owned by novel and ibm bribed novel to get involved > on the side of linux by giving them SuSE. it may not just be time to find a > new distro but a new kernel. Any one know how HURD development is going > these days? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: einker > Subj: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] "Novell also plans to sell some intellectual > property assets for $450 million to a consortium of technology companies > organized by Microsoft." Argh! > Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm > Size: 2K > To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com > > All Suse users are now officially screwed .... > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:32 PM, swd wrote: > > > The end if openSuse?... > > > > > > > http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/novell-to-be-sold-for-2-2-billion/?hp > > w > > > > November 22, 2010, 8:56 am > > Novell Being Acquired for $2.2 Billion > > By EVELYN M. RUSLI > > > > 9:58 a.m. | Updated > > Novell, the software maker, said on Monday that it had agreed to be > > acquired > > by the Attachmate Corporation for $2.2 billion in cash. > > > > Novell also plans to sell some intellectual property assets for $450 > > million > > to a consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft. > > Attachmate's > > takeover is contingent on the successful closing of the sale. > > > > Novell, a company that specializes in enterprise infrastructure software, > > will add to Attachmate's portfolio of software brands, which includes its > > namesake line and NetIQ (acquired in 2006). Attachmate has effectively > > served as an acquisition vehicle, led by a trio of private equity firms: > > Francisco Partners, Golden Gate Capital and Thoma Bravo. In 2005, the > > investment team purchased Attachmate for an undisclosed sum and > immediately > > merged it with an earlier buyout, WRQ. > > > > The offer of $6.10 a share represents a premium of 28 percent above > > Novell's > > closing share price on March 2, Novell said in its statement. That is > when > > the hedge fund Elliott Associates said said it had offered to buy the > > company for $5.75 a share, or $2 billion - an offer that the board of > > Novell > > rejected as "inadequate." > > Under this new deal, Elliott will stay on as an equity shareholder of > > Attachmate, according to the news release. > > The offer is a 9.1 percent premium from Novell's closing stock price on > > Friday. > > > > Although the deal represents a premium for Novell shareholders, some > > analysts say the transaction highlights the challenge of putting a > > sprawling > > company like Novell on the auction block. The Novell deal stands in > > contrast > > to the rest of the technology sector, which has had a wave of mergers and > > acquisitions this year, often at rich premiums, Richard Williams, an > > analyst > > for Cross Research, said. The value of third quarter deals rose 48 > percent > > from the year-ago period, according to a recent report by Ernst & Young. > > > > "I'm surprised the deal got done," Mark Schappel, a Benchmark Capital > > senior > > software analyst said. "Novell is a very difficult deal to get done, > > there's > > a lot of moving parts." > > Even though a lot of players were in the market, none of them wanted all > of > > Novell, he said. > > > > Founded in 1983, Novell rose to prominence for its network operating > > system, > > Netware. However, in the mid-1990s, the company started to make > > acquisitions > > to become more competitive in the enterprise space, picking up companies > > like Cambridge Technology Partners, Unix System, SilverStream Software , > > Ximian and SUSE, a linux > --- message truncated --- > >
-- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Rob,
That was my thinking as well. I am heading for BSDland with cur= rent copies of FreeBSD and OpenBSD.=A0=A0
">On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Paul Robert Marino <= ;prmarino1-at-gmail.com> = wrote: r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">If you remember e= arlier this year I predicted that based on microsofts activity that we coul= d expect to see a linux version of Microsoft Office shortly after Samba 4 b= ecame stable. Well this ties right into it. Yes the idea of a "MS Linu= x" does not supprise me at this point, although it does disturb me. Th= e thing that I'm realy woried about is microsoft owning all of novels c= opyrights and patents. If you remember back to the days of the sco law suit= the thing that saved Linux in the courts was the fact that the code in que= stion was actualy owned by novel and ibm bribed novel to get involved on th= e side of linux by giving them SuSE. it may not just be time to find a new = distro but a new kernel. Any one know how HURD development is going these d= ays?
-----Original Message----- From: =A0einker < eminker-at-gmail.com<= /a>>
Subj: =A0Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] "Novell also plans to sell some intelle= ctual property assets for $450 million to a consortium of technology compan= ies organized by Microsoft." Argh!
Date: =A0Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm
Size: =A02K
To: =A0hangout-at-mrbrklyn.comAll Suse users are now officially screwed .... On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:32 PM, swd < ne.net">sderrick-at-optonline.net> wrote: > The end if openSuse?... > > > r-2-2-billion/?hp" target=3D"_blank">http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/11/22= /novell-to-be-sold-for-2-2-billion/?hp> w > > =A0November 22, 2010, 8:56 am > Novell Being Acquired for $2.2 Billion > By EVELYN M. RUSLI > > 9:58 a.m. | Updated > Novell, the software maker, said on Monday that it had agreed to be > > acquired > by the Attachmate Corporation for $2.2 billion in cash. > > Novell also plans to sell some intellectual property assets for $450 r> > million
> to a consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft.
> Attachmate's
> takeover is contingent on the successful closing of the sale.
>
> Novell, a company that specializes in enterprise infrastructure softwa= re,
> will add to Attachmate's portfolio of software brands, which inclu= des its
> namesake line and NetIQ (acquired in 2006). Attachmate has effectively=
> served as an acquisition vehicle, led by a trio of private equity firm= s:
> Francisco Partners, Golden Gate Capital and Thoma Bravo. In 2005, the<= br> > investment team purchased Attachmate for an undisclosed sum and immedi= ately
> merged it with an earlier buyout, WRQ.
>
> The offer of $6.10 a share represents a premium of 28 percent above > > Novell's
> closing share price on March 2, Novell said in its statement. That is = when
> the hedge fund Elliott Associates said said it had offered to buy the<= br> > company for $5.75 a share, or $2 billion - an offer that the board of<= br> > Novell
> rejected as "inadequate."
> Under this new deal, Elliott will stay on as an equity shareholder of<= br> > Attachmate, according to the news release.
> The offer is a 9.1 percent premium from Novell's closing stock pri= ce on
> Friday.
>
> Although the deal represents a premium for Novell shareholders, somer> > analysts say the transaction highlights the challenge of putting a
> sprawling
> company like Novell on the auction block. The Novell deal stands in > > contrast
> to the rest of the technology sector, which has had a wave of mergers = and
> acquisitions this year, often at rich premiums, Richard Williams, anr> > analyst
> for Cross Research, said. The value of third quarter deals rose 48 per= cent
> from the year-ago period, according to a recent report by Ernst & = Young.
>
> "I'm surprised the deal got done," Mark Schappel, a Benc= hmark Capital
> senior
> software analyst said. "Novell is a very difficult deal to get do= ne,
> there's
> a lot of moving parts."
> Even though a lot of players were in the market, none of them wanted a= ll of
> Novell, he said.
>
> Founded in 1983, Novell rose to prominence for its network operatingr> > system,
> Netware. However, in the mid-1990s, the company started to make
> acquisitions
> to become more competitive in the enterprise space, picking up compani= es
> like Cambridge Technology Partners, Unix System, SilverStream Software= ,
> Ximian and SUSE, a linux
--- message truncated ---
-- Regards,
Evan M= . Inker
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