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DATE | 2009-07-20 |
FROM | Simon Fondrie-Teitler
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Strange News this week
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From lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Jul 20 23:56:15 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6L3uDiu031633 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n6L3uDYE031632 for hangout-outgoings; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lestw-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail-bw0-f217.google.com (mail-bw0-f217.google.com [209.85.218.217]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6L3uArJ031629 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:56:12 -0400 Received: by bwz17 with SMTP id 17so2909189bwz.5 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=oZe1qffiIQ1fRcyT3ojaN4wk71h9gA3DDkQ+lkBp5eM=; b=XQgi/2wfQNNLUDvp/SbX5ac3yaZHdcieQwQdZr4MCbZwXExebYdDUaOozd7GfMYP7h FjBK1DpXvaU4iVKrslBiwgBrLdTSM8F3fZoGOnI6TVSTnVAnQ0POqaCfC+JF6OXewnFQ XDaFNxJwznfWmQlt3p7DWHRC01TU2SvSVB4oo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=X2XxY+4umpYfs2c1s5S8F/0zSSSJWoSZviAd4edk92GMutfoavaVYWi+NwGqN8RIGY pWaZ+XsJin/m8qVaKly65SizzKVFPy3M98OMUrXgN0xhf+7Gg80M0jeXDvZrju0pv8RJ 75Jxe382Msx4JGJYOELqMq/yJdyE86iBLbZfM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.129 with SMTP id c1mr5083878bkk.9.1248148568261; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A65370B.8020101-at-vnetworx.net> References: <20090721001138.GA29808-at-panix.com> <4A651613.4060407-at-vnetworx.net> <20090721015016.GA4395-at-panix.com> <4A652557.60408-at-vnetworx.net> <20090721030011.GA3187-at-panix.com> <4A65370B.8020101-at-vnetworx.net> From: Simon Fondrie-Teitler Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:55:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Strange News this week To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636458d3009c59a046f2f3cf5 Sender: lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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The biggest threat to free software that I see coming from the Google OS is related to the license under which it is released, but the cloud computing it promotes. This will pull huge amounts of users away from free software such a open office and towards online software such as Google Docs. It will also limit what the user can do with the desktop and the computer itself. From what I understand of the chrome OS, it would be hard to install anything extra on it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
All of this does not even begin to adress the privacy issues either.
-------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Teitler --------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ron Guerin wrote:
> Ruben Safir wrote: > > What would be interesting is if MS and Google end up in a OS war moving > > increasingly closer to GPLed software for greater market shares. Not > > impossible..... > > > > > I'm thinking more along the lines of deja vu when Apple came out with > their BSD kerneled OS. That was supposed to be great for "us", > remember? I'm not sure how having vast numbers of former Free Software > users/developers running Quartz/OS X has helped us. I must have missed > that memo. Hopefully I'll get the one they send out for the > Not-X/Chrome OS. > > - Ron >
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The biggest threat to free software that I see coming from the Google OS is= related to the license under which it is released, but the cloud computing= it promotes. This will pull huge amounts of users away from free software = such a open office and towards online software such as Google Docs. It will= also limit what the user can do with the desktop and the computer itself. = From what I understand of the chrome OS, it would be hard to install anythi= ng extra on it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
All of this does not even begin to adress the privacy issues either. > -------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Te= itler --------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ron Gu= erin <ron-at-vnetworx= .net> wrote: rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding= -left: 1ex;">
Ruben Safir wrote:
> What would be interesting is if MS and Google end up in a OS war movin= g
> increasingly closer to GPLed software for greater market shares. =C2= =A0Not
> impossible.....
>
>
I'm thinking more along the lines of deja vu when Apple came out = with
their BSD kerneled OS. =C2=A0That was supposed to be great for "us&quo= t;,
remember? =C2=A0 I'm not sure how having vast numbers of former Free So= ftware
users/developers running Quartz/OS X has helped us. =C2=A0I must have misse= d
that memo. =C2=A0Hopefully I'll get the one they send out for the
Not-X/Chrome OS.
- Ron
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The biggest threat to free software that I see coming from the Google OS is related to the license under which it is released, but the cloud computing it promotes. This will pull huge amounts of users away from free software such a open office and towards online software such as Google Docs. It will also limit what the user can do with the desktop and the computer itself. From what I understand of the chrome OS, it would be hard to install anything extra on it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
All of this does not even begin to adress the privacy issues either.
-------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Teitler --------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ron Guerin wrote:
> Ruben Safir wrote: > > What would be interesting is if MS and Google end up in a OS war moving > > increasingly closer to GPLed software for greater market shares. Not > > impossible..... > > > > > I'm thinking more along the lines of deja vu when Apple came out with > their BSD kerneled OS. That was supposed to be great for "us", > remember? I'm not sure how having vast numbers of former Free Software > users/developers running Quartz/OS X has helped us. I must have missed > that memo. Hopefully I'll get the one they send out for the > Not-X/Chrome OS. > > - Ron >
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The biggest threat to free software that I see coming from the Google OS is= related to the license under which it is released, but the cloud computing= it promotes. This will pull huge amounts of users away from free software = such a open office and towards online software such as Google Docs. It will= also limit what the user can do with the desktop and the computer itself. = From what I understand of the chrome OS, it would be hard to install anythi= ng extra on it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
All of this does not even begin to adress the privacy issues either. > -------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Te= itler --------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ron Gu= erin <ron-at-vnetworx= .net> wrote: rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding= -left: 1ex;">
Ruben Safir wrote:
> What would be interesting is if MS and Google end up in a OS war movin= g
> increasingly closer to GPLed software for greater market shares. =C2= =A0Not
> impossible.....
>
>
I'm thinking more along the lines of deja vu when Apple came out = with
their BSD kerneled OS. =C2=A0That was supposed to be great for "us&quo= t;,
remember? =C2=A0 I'm not sure how having vast numbers of former Free So= ftware
users/developers running Quartz/OS X has helped us. =C2=A0I must have misse= d
that memo. =C2=A0Hopefully I'll get the one they send out for the
Not-X/Chrome OS.
- Ron
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