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| DATE | 2009-02-01 |
| FROM | Ronny Abraham
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects
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Ah, well that's OK then. Thank you for clearing it all up.
I guess I'll be able to start in two weeks, I need to read up on C++,
and QT. Those seem like the best bet. GTK is prettier, but I get the
impression that QT is a more tightly put together package.
If anyone has a good book to recommend that covers QT and C++ at the
same time, that would be perfect.
-ron
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 06:21:25AM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
>> OK, I'm willing to play. But my problem is that certain of your
>> positions, while reasonable, are incompatible with my own goals.
>>
>> I feel very strongly about making software available to everyone on
>> whatever platform they like. If a developer decides to pop up and
>> help me by porting a project I'm working on to, say, the SuperEvilOS,
>> then I feel very strongly that he should be able to do so. I fully
>> understand your reasoning to the contrary. But like I said, this is
>> simply how I feel about it. That doesn't mean that I am going to
>> invest the time to port it to every system. But if someone else wants
>> to, then they can knock themselves out.
>>
>
>
> Let them knock themselves out. It's Free Software and they can take it
> to do whatever they want.
>
>
>> Now I am willing to accept not hosting source that is meant for a
>> non-free OS. After all, your server, your rules.
>
> Ron - I don't own this server. I own a hard drive in it, one of three,
> but Michael George gave NYLXS this server and you have an equal share of
> it and I administer it, in theory at least, under the supervion of the
> NYLXS board.
>
>> But I can't do it
>> if someone else can't take that source and host his branch for a
>> proprietary OS on another server. I understand how arrogant that
>> sounds, I mean I'm only one guy, and who knows if this is a useless
>> idea in any case. But that's just how I see things.
>>
>
> Preventing the source from being downloaded is a violation of the GPL
> so I don't seee why we would not make it publically available.
>
>> By the way, what kind of tools are you referring to?
>
> What tools do you want. We have SSH, C++, Mono, CVS, Apache, PHP,
> Perl, Python, EMACS, VIM, personal webspace, C, ADA, Small Talk,
> IRC clients, open access for members, mail, about 60Gigs of hard drive
> space, mailing lists, Ruby, video hardware, audio hardware, GTK, Wings,
> QT widget sets, DOCBOOK, TCL, TK, Java, EMBPERL, MODPERL, a 300 book
> library, a 1.1 mb broadband connection, 4 unused monitors, a dozen ISO's
> on the server, vidoes, audio resources, 30 gigs of documentaion, just about
> anything your heart can delight in.
>
> We can organize and control the invasion of a medium sized country with
> NYLXS resources.
>
> Ruben
>
>>
>> -ron
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> > On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 04:42:48AM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
>> >> Ah, OK, thank you for clarifying that.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:25:31PM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote:
>> >> >> Uh, I am starting to feel a bit uncomfortable. Are you saying that if
>> >> >> I decide to create an free outliner program outside of NYLXS, I can't?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > How would I have the authority to say that? I'm saying that if NYLXS is
>> >> > doing this, then it is by NYLXS standards. If you want to do something
>> >> > outside of NYLXS why are we having this conversation. This started with
>> >> > Evan's call for more NYLXS projects.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ruben
>> >> >
>> >
>> > I understand your discomfort ron, but trust me, its not half as bad as
>> > the pain of investing 100's of hours into projects to only have them
>> > unravel because someone walks away with a significant portion of "our"
>> > team effort.
>> >
>> > Aside from that, we pay almost 200 bucks a month to host this stuff, and
>> > we have powerful tools...far more powerful than anything google can
>> > offer. We should use them instead of wasting them in a
>> > burst of the latest online traps.
>> >
>> > Ruben
>> >
>> >> >> -ron
>> >> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
>> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>> >
>> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>> >
>> > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>> >
>> > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>> >
>> > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
>> >
>> > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
>> > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>> >
>> > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
>> >
>
> --
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>
> (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
>
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