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DATE | 2009-01-23 |
FROM | einker
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Jan 23 14:31:43 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n0NJVf5w007693 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:31:43 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n0NJVfSG007692 for hangout-outgoings; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:31:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.184]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n0NJVYuG007689; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:31:38 -0500 Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j42so1273460rne.1 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:31:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k2or0WaUgl/YxEssHm0SyNCqj+aM6NVBKFtG9T665dA=; b=DJd41il/K1f8XJYVuoSXsKl1aLoRiBi8EU+ZpibInkeKFJ734axxBSkE/TpFw4CFOD bnfzrGwU4g8bEE+zLLmo/UZFdaXaQ+2IcjrpCGCF9YBdQwAbxFAylagoMIP/iOmdVksI 1i9osW9nQRstxMn6xN9i3FiPVaD7hVdMjKCnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BkZ4nrgxeQxoftCjqKlo9teL1XBpBE0I4V49JNiyJYVxDWot3E3SRls9w90BxgcGr/ 3cvemk8Cq6EQXrUDcFA6L2KbmM5yFdqhjJApjtgSnvtNOEoae59Hb/i17WuZcf96i/3O sd3fEbegaSLqXvD6SAAggnSm2MpT0QqwfJVts= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.44.15 with SMTP id w15mr3802712ybj.35.1232739085680; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:31:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090117064352.GA1772-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20090117064352.GA1772-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:31:25 -0500 Message-ID: <8753839c0901231131sd09c503v41f3aeba977d13df-at-mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Projects From: einker To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, Ruben Safir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750dbe24d803d04612b6f61 Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Freedom-IT would be nice but does anyone have a venue they woould like to explore. Multimedia Software was last year. We could do the Business software side (Free Software in Businesses) approach but need at least three other people to get this or any other venue off the ground. Any volunteers?
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> Hey Guys > > I have a problem. I can plan projects, meetings and activities from now > until when hell freezes over but the trouble is that it is impossible to > get anything productily done without the cooperation, companionship and > help of friends that NYLXS once provided. > > NYLXS was one time the hurricaine of free software activity for the > region, but we did everything together. it was the people behind NYLXS > that made it work. All the enthusiasm, power, and dynamics that pushed > us forward was based on our compainionship. > > I don't know what happened. Perhaps it is me, or the changing economy, > or the state of volunteerism in todays society, but i can't seem to get > anyone to move an inch off there asses anymore. > > I tried to get several projects up and running, particularly the C++ > program, classes and Freedom-IT and it just seems we are more interested > in talking about stuff getting done than actually doing it. I posted > C++ programs for 3 months until I burned out. > > If we are going to have another meeting in the near future, I don't want > to argue and plan. I want to get some hacking done, and get some > membership drive working. I talk until I'm blue in the face but can't > push us past point one. I'd love to get more programming studies going > but I can't do it by myself. Even I become exhausted. > > Ruben > > -- > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like > Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI > Safir 1998 > > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI > Safir 2002 > > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" > > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to > our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own > society." > > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be > damned.< > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have > been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess > you missed that one." > > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium >
-- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Freedom-IT would be nice but does anyone have a venue they woould like to e= xplore. Multimedia Software was last year. We could do the Business softwar= e side (Free Software in Businesses) approach but need at least three = other people to get this or any other venue off the ground. Any volunteers?=
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Ruben Safir an dir=3D"ltr"><ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com= > wrote:
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hey Guys
I have a problem= . I can plan projects, meetings and activities from now until when= hell freezes over but the trouble is that it is impossible to
get anything productily done without the cooperation, companionship and = help of friends that NYLXS once provided.
NYLXS was one time the hur= ricaine of free software activity for the region, but we did everything = together. it was the people behind NYLXS
that made it work. All the enthusiasm, power, and dynamics that pushe= d us forward was based on our compainionship.
I don't know wh= at happened. Perhaps it is me, or the changing economy, or the sta= te of volunteerism in todays society, but i can't seem to get
anyone to move an inch off there asses anymore.
I tried to get sever= al projects up and running, particularly the C++ program, classes and Fr= eedom-IT and it just seems we are more interested in talking about stuff= getting done than actually doing it. I posted
C++ programs for 3 months until I burned out.
If we are going to hav= e another meeting in the near future, I don't want to argue and plan= . I want to get some hacking done, and get some membership drive w= orking. I talk until I'm blue in the face but can't
push us past point one. I'd love to get more programming studies = going but I can't do it by myself. Even I become exhausted. > Ruben
-- nk">http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com> - Leadership Development in Free Software
So many immigrant groups= have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mytholog= ical proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://fairuse.= nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002<= br> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
"Th= e tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our o= wn cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own socie= ty."
"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, pol= itics be damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs= and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Anci= ent Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
© Copyright for the Digital Millennium
<= br clear=3D"all"> -- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Freedom-IT would be nice but does anyone have a venue they woould like to explore. Multimedia Software was last year. We could do the Business software side (Free Software in Businesses) approach but need at least three other people to get this or any other venue off the ground. Any volunteers?
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> Hey Guys > > I have a problem. I can plan projects, meetings and activities from now > until when hell freezes over but the trouble is that it is impossible to > get anything productily done without the cooperation, companionship and > help of friends that NYLXS once provided. > > NYLXS was one time the hurricaine of free software activity for the > region, but we did everything together. it was the people behind NYLXS > that made it work. All the enthusiasm, power, and dynamics that pushed > us forward was based on our compainionship. > > I don't know what happened. Perhaps it is me, or the changing economy, > or the state of volunteerism in todays society, but i can't seem to get > anyone to move an inch off there asses anymore. > > I tried to get several projects up and running, particularly the C++ > program, classes and Freedom-IT and it just seems we are more interested > in talking about stuff getting done than actually doing it. I posted > C++ programs for 3 months until I burned out. > > If we are going to have another meeting in the near future, I don't want > to argue and plan. I want to get some hacking done, and get some > membership drive working. I talk until I'm blue in the face but can't > push us past point one. I'd love to get more programming studies going > but I can't do it by myself. Even I become exhausted. > > Ruben > > -- > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like > Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI > Safir 1998 > > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI > Safir 2002 > > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" > > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to > our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own > society." > > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be > damned.< > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have > been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess > you missed that one." > > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium >
-- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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Freedom-IT would be nice but does anyone have a venue they woould like to e= xplore. Multimedia Software was last year. We could do the Business softwar= e side (Free Software in Businesses) approach but need at least three = other people to get this or any other venue off the ground. Any volunteers?=
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Ruben Safir an dir=3D"ltr"><ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com= > wrote:
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hey Guys
I have a problem= . I can plan projects, meetings and activities from now until when= hell freezes over but the trouble is that it is impossible to
get anything productily done without the cooperation, companionship and = help of friends that NYLXS once provided.
NYLXS was one time the hur= ricaine of free software activity for the region, but we did everything = together. it was the people behind NYLXS
that made it work. All the enthusiasm, power, and dynamics that pushe= d us forward was based on our compainionship.
I don't know wh= at happened. Perhaps it is me, or the changing economy, or the sta= te of volunteerism in todays society, but i can't seem to get
anyone to move an inch off there asses anymore.
I tried to get sever= al projects up and running, particularly the C++ program, classes and Fr= eedom-IT and it just seems we are more interested in talking about stuff= getting done than actually doing it. I posted
C++ programs for 3 months until I burned out.
If we are going to hav= e another meeting in the near future, I don't want to argue and plan= . I want to get some hacking done, and get some membership drive w= orking. I talk until I'm blue in the face but can't
push us past point one. I'd love to get more programming studies = going but I can't do it by myself. Even I become exhausted. > Ruben
-- nk">http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com> - Leadership Development in Free Software
So many immigrant groups= have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mytholog= ical proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://fairuse.= nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002<= br> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
"Th= e tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our o= wn cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own socie= ty."
"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, pol= itics be damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs= and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Anci= ent Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
© Copyright for the Digital Millennium
<= br clear=3D"all"> -- Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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