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| DATE | 2008-10-23 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] Getting Rid of postfix and exim on my laptop
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 03:03:45AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 01:28:33AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> >> On Wednesday, 2008-10-22 at 20:48 -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
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> >>> Carlos E. R. said the following on 10/22/2008 08:07 PM:
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> >>
> >>>>> As for "thousands" of syslog entries - that also means cron would be
> >>>>> producing thousands of emails.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't mean that.
> >>>>
> >>>> .....
> >>
> >>>>> The delivery doesn't have to be by mail - though it could with local
> >>>>> delivery. I could be by a message sent to a window or a pop-up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Certainly not! It would not work for headless machines or text only
> >>>> machines, or machines where the administrator is not logged it.
> >>>
> >>> Indeed. Which is why SWATCH and other syslog watchers can pipe to
> >>> various destinations - SMS, pager... whatever. It doesn't have to be a
> >>> pop-up.
> >>>
> >>> The point is to uncouple.
> >>>
> >>> More to the point, use of syslog integrates better with enterprise-level
> >>> tools that consolidate reporting. I've installed these in banks and
> >>> telcos; all the syslog gets routed to a central server and a database
> >>> where it can be sliced and diced and used to produce pretty graphs or
> >>> management, trend analysis, incident tracking feeds to ITIL .... and
> >>> much more.
> >>
> >> BTDT :-)
> >>
> >> But openSUSE is not a big enterprise distro, it is a "user" distro.
> >
> > Yeah - and every desktop needs Postfix? No. Aside which, what does
> > that mean. OpenSuSe can't
> > run big iron because Novell markets something else?
> >
> > It seems to function fine on large systems.
> >
> Hi Ruben,
> some debian based info that maybe intesting/useful.
> on Debian, there are a set of packages call 'essential', these are
> required on all systems and can not be removed without a big warning as
> they would lead to a non-functioning system.
> for most debian systems, the install requires an MTA. Debian chooses
> what that will be, currently exim4. After the install, you can change
> this as long as it provides something similar. Debian has a parameter
> for its software packages called a 'provides' parameter. It allows you
> to install postfix and other similar MTAs which contain this metadata
> 'provides: mail-transport-agent'. This means that both a lightweight and
> heavyduty MTA can be installed because they fullfill this system
> 'dependency'. I would expect that rpm based sytems have something
> similar to install nullmailer or ssmtp.
>
With all do respect Kevin, Debian sucks more than SuSE. If doesn't even
have an integrated menue for wmaker.
Ruben
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