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DATE | 2008-10-08 |
FROM | Elfen Magix
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps?
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Oct 8 18:38:34 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m98McWaq003708 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:38:34 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m98McVHc003706 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:38:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.124.116]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with SMTP id m98McBf7003683 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:38:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 36086 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2008 22:37:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Vner04WYpio5B9VX8HYF88+0LSZy7GfddyfD2LcxE5z5vQXJ9W/4eXQlr5FX6huEWwwMVsggfxVKCsxMxf3vVBA0EGnYGnoI+Zat0AlmrYYbqC8g62yBmZ6vlxoth/Gy0nz9jn1HAvHqQ+YD4R6hd3G0HGe9jFfQoYkwOB5q368=; X-YMail-OSG: LRB3JZkVM1kjCBEKyCbn8sAWgs29RlAe8lOkoHdZYLheLDSKaiV1AcQguKBOgKtTJASrImXFHPBbPOZEAPgL07EeMNQ5PxOeW.pdDEQ0zL6ODtx5hWkPUNp_ceqs89l_uu5LD_0_8AvVNZ165GY_SFADa1Yew5kr9rpznSH52JYkxxS7p36IfkSM_ec- Received: from [64.81.134.178] by web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:37:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Elfen Magix Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps? To: "Williams, David G. \(HQ-JF000\)\[INDUS\]" , hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Cc: embperl-at-perl.apache.org In-Reply-To: <48EC4896.30207-at-mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-55524635-1223505456=:7222" Message-ID: <799613.7222.qm-at-web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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I use Perl-CGI instead of EmbedPerl, but I can see where it can be advantagous to have it. Saddly PHP is becoming the more popular of the two languages, considering since PHP came from Perl to begin with!
Just my 2-cents, I dont want to see it die even though I currently use it.
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Ruben Safir wrote: From: Ruben Safir Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps? To: "Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS]" Cc: embperl-at-perl.apache.org, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:43 AM
Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS] wrote: > It now seems abundantly clear that Embperl development/discussion has > become very dormant. Perhaps it has been abandoned. I don't wish to > criticize Gerald for abandoning this project, rather, I would like to > thank him for his fine work. I have been using Embperl professionally > since the beginning and am very grateful to him. > > Now I am at a crossroads of sorts - I have to choose between continuing > to develop in Embperl or migrating my code (lots of it) to another > product that is actively supported. I think it's hard for me to justify > continuing Embperl development to my client given that the product > lacks: > - support > - ample documentation > - an active community (a la PHP) (and no, I do not like or advocate PHP) > > So my question to the community (what's left of it) is this: which > language/product should I use instead of Embperl/Embperl Object? Here > are my priorities: > - Camelness: I would prefer to stay under the Perl umbrella if possible. > I am not unwilling to learn other languages if necessary but Perl rocks! > - Power: Properly implemented, Embperl/Embperl Object is VERY powerful > and productive. I don't want to downgrade to an inferior product > - Open Source: of course > - Continuity: I need to choose a product that is not on it's way to > retirement > - Documentation: Something well documented (perhaps supported by an > O'Reilly book). > - Community: There should be an active community with active discussion > boards and more than one person enhancing/maintaining the product > - Linux: Microsoft is out of the question. > > Thank you very much for your time. > > David G. Williams > >
I still use it and it just works. Does it need more development?
Ruben
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscribe-at-perl.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-help-at-perl.apache.org > > >
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I use Perl-CGI instead of EmbedPerl, but I can see where it can be advantagous to have it. Saddly PHP is becoming the more popular of the two languages, considering since PHP came from Perl to begin with!
Just my 2-cents, I dont want to see it die even though I currently use it.
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
From: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps? To: "Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS]" <david.g.williams-at-nasa.gov> Cc: embperl-at-perl.apache.org, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:43 AM
Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS] wrote: > It now seems abundantly clear that Embperl development/discussion has > become very dormant. Perhaps it has been abandoned. I don't wish to > criticize Gerald for abandoning this project, rather, I would like to > thank him for his fine work. I have been using Embperl professionally > since the beginning and am very grateful to him. > > Now I am at a crossroads of sorts - I have to choose between continuing > to develop in Embperl or migrating my code (lots of it) to another > product that is actively supported. I think it's hard for me to justify > continuing Embperl development to my client given that the product > lacks: > - support > - ample documentation > - an active community (a la PHP) (and no, I do not like or advocate PHP) > > So my question to the community (what's left of it) is this: which > language/product should I use instead of Embperl/Embperl Object? Here > are my priorities: > - Camelness: I would prefer to stay under the Perl umbrella if possible. > I am not unwilling to learn other languages if necessary but Perl rocks! > - Power: Properly implemented, Embperl/Embperl Object is VERY powerful > and productive. I don't want to downgrade to an inferior product > - Open Source: of course > - Continuity: I need to choose a product that is not on it's way to > retirement > - Documentation: Something well documented (perhaps supported by an > O'Reilly book). > - Community: There should be an active community with active discussion > boards and more than one person enhancing/maintaining the product > - Linux: Microsoft is out of the question. > > Thank you very much for your time. > > David G. Williams > >
I still use it and it just works. Does it need more development?
Ruben
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscribe-at-perl.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-help-at-perl.apache.org > > >
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I use Perl-CGI instead of EmbedPerl, but I can see where it can be advantagous to have it. Saddly PHP is becoming the more popular of the two languages, considering since PHP came from Perl to begin with!
Just my 2-cents, I dont want to see it die even though I currently use it.
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Ruben Safir wrote: From: Ruben Safir Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps? To: "Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS]" Cc: embperl-at-perl.apache.org, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:43 AM
Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS] wrote: > It now seems abundantly clear that Embperl development/discussion has > become very dormant. Perhaps it has been abandoned. I don't wish to > criticize Gerald for abandoning this project, rather, I would like to > thank him for his fine work. I have been using Embperl professionally > since the beginning and am very grateful to him. > > Now I am at a crossroads of sorts - I have to choose between continuing > to develop in Embperl or migrating my code (lots of it) to another > product that is actively supported. I think it's hard for me to justify > continuing Embperl development to my client given that the product > lacks: > - support > - ample documentation > - an active community (a la PHP) (and no, I do not like or advocate PHP) > > So my question to the community (what's left of it) is this: which > language/product should I use instead of Embperl/Embperl Object? Here > are my priorities: > - Camelness: I would prefer to stay under the Perl umbrella if possible. > I am not unwilling to learn other languages if necessary but Perl rocks! > - Power: Properly implemented, Embperl/Embperl Object is VERY powerful > and productive. I don't want to downgrade to an inferior product > - Open Source: of course > - Continuity: I need to choose a product that is not on it's way to > retirement > - Documentation: Something well documented (perhaps supported by an > O'Reilly book). > - Community: There should be an active community with active discussion > boards and more than one person enhancing/maintaining the product > - Linux: Microsoft is out of the question. > > Thank you very much for your time. > > David G. Williams > >
I still use it and it just works. Does it need more development?
Ruben
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscribe-at-perl.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-help-at-perl.apache.org > > >
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I use Perl-CGI instead of EmbedPerl, but I can see where it can be advantagous to have it. Saddly PHP is becoming the more popular of the two languages, considering since PHP came from Perl to begin with!
Just my 2-cents, I dont want to see it die even though I currently use it.
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
From: Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps? To: "Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS]" <david.g.williams-at-nasa.gov> Cc: embperl-at-perl.apache.org, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:43 AM
Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS] wrote: > It now seems abundantly clear that Embperl development/discussion has > become very dormant. Perhaps it has been abandoned. I don't wish to > criticize Gerald for abandoning this project, rather, I would like to > thank him for his fine work. I have been using Embperl professionally > since the beginning and am very grateful to him. > > Now I am at a crossroads of sorts - I have to choose between continuing > to develop in Embperl or migrating my code (lots of it) to another > product that is actively supported. I think it's hard for me to justify > continuing Embperl development to my client given that the product > lacks: > - support > - ample documentation > - an active community (a la PHP) (and no, I do not like or advocate PHP) > > So my question to the community (what's left of it) is this: which > language/product should I use instead of Embperl/Embperl Object? Here > are my priorities: > - Camelness: I would prefer to stay under the Perl umbrella if possible. > I am not unwilling to learn other languages if necessary but Perl rocks! > - Power: Properly implemented, Embperl/Embperl Object is VERY powerful > and productive. I don't want to downgrade to an inferior product > - Open Source: of course > - Continuity: I need to choose a product that is not on it's way to > retirement > - Documentation: Something well documented (perhaps supported by an > O'Reilly book). > - Community: There should be an active community with active discussion > boards and more than one person enhancing/maintaining the product > - Linux: Microsoft is out of the question. > > Thank you very much for your time. > > David G. Williams > >
I still use it and it just works. Does it need more development?
Ruben
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: embperl-unsubscribe-at-perl.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: embperl-help-at-perl.apache.org > > >
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