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| DATE | 2008-07-07 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Maybe its because lindows just sucked
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:52:59PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:12:49PM -0400, Mark Simko wrote:
>
> >
> > Look at this new Apple Laptop with the touch screen. Nothing stopped
> > SuSE, IBM or Ubuntu from creating this first, and marketing it strongly.
> >
>
> Is that a business need or just eye candy? You are referring to the
> multitouch technology, right? Because Ubuntu works just fine on my
> convertible Toshiba with a touchscreen. I haven't found a great onscreen
> keyboard / handwriting recognition app yet, but that will come.
>
Getting rid of the damn mouse and making a truly interactive computing
environment has been a business need for almost a decade that nobody has
had incentive to develop. These systems are CRAP. CRAP CRAP CRAP.
I send all day destroying my wrist on computers that are no better
than a damn 1970 Xerox Park machine for processing over 1000 medical data points
a day. This stuff is CRAP.
> >
> > And thats not all. The X11 interface is hobbled in most environments and
> > development appications because of the work done making everything Windows
> > Compatable. That includes OpenOffice, all the databases, Ximian, KDE
> >
>
> OpenOffice must be windows compatible for market penetration. Without
> compatibility, it will sink below the waves.
>
Not at all. Stupid word processors still drop your idiot reports on a
file instead of a real database. They SUCK and we can do much better.
And just try to tilt your monitor like a real notpad, or even better, just
pick up the whole monitor/input device and put it on your lap or walk with
it down the hall.
Word processors are also still are bounded to a single machines.
> > EVERYTHING. They are frankly just so damn stupid it is fustrating.
> >
> > Novell and IBM can wrap server side services to desktop applicaitons in a
> > truly secure and light way in ways MS could NEVER duplicate without ripping
> > up their entire foundation and starting from scratch. What are they waiting
> > for. They're years too late and a billion dollars short.
> >
>
> They are waiting for a true business case with realizable roi.
Bullshit. They aren't investing a nickle into the front end. They
want to sell only big iron. They have NO desire to complete, and frankly
wouldn't know how to.
>
> btw, I'm not surprised that Lindows went belly up. They didn't position
> themselves as better. They positioned themselves as cheaper.
>
> How about this - Linux is a lot more convenient. It comes all inclusive!
>
>
> > >
> > > So Linux on the desktop success depends upon the success of Flash on
> > > Linux? Please!!! That's just eye candy.
> > >
> >
> > Why isn't Thea being pushed? Who is marking it?
> > Better yet, why are we stuffing X11 functionality into the damn web browser?
> >
>
> For available anywhere apps. But ultimately for recurring revenue.
>
>
Because they don't have X11. They don't even UNDERSTAND X11.
When I see remote icons bolted to the desktop which are actually
widgets running on a remote blade server running across the city
and only displayed on your local X11 server and which pop up
remote running applications through a VPN connection
using your local X11 window manager of choice, that interfaces with
a touch screen and can take basic voice commands then I'll KNOW
that they are finally getting it. Integrate a Telephony application,
voice recording, journaling logs, biometeric identification, accounting
and budgeting package, a simple alarm clock...all running from on the server
side and you will BURY microsoft.
People buy crap because they don't have a clue about what is possible. They
think the IPOD is a revolution.
I can't even dim my lights with my computer.
Ruben
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
"I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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