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DATE | 2008-07-07 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Maybe its because lindows just sucked
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:12:49PM -0400, Mark Simko wrote: > > > > > Look at this new Apple Laptop with the touch screen. Nothing stopped > > SuSE, IBM or Ubuntu from creating this first, and marketing it strongly. > > > > Is that a business need or just eye candy? You are referring to the > multitouch technology, right? Because Ubuntu works just fine on my > convertible Toshiba with a touchscreen. I haven't found a great onscreen > keyboard / handwriting recognition app yet, but that will come. >
Getting rid of the damn mouse and making a truly interactive computing environment has been a business need for almost a decade that nobody has had insentive to develop. These systems are CRAP. CRAP CRAP CRAP.
I send all day destroying my wrist on computers that are no better than a damn 1970 Xerox Park machine for processing over 1000 medical data points a day. This stuff is CRAP.
> > > > And thats not all. The X11 interface is hobbled in most environments and > > development appications because of the work done making everything Windows > > Compatable. That includes OpenOffice, all the databases, Ximian, KDE > > > > OpenOffice must be windows compatible for market penetration. Without > compatibility, it will sink below the waves. >
Not at all. Stupid word processors still drop you idiot reports on a file instead of a real database. They SUCK and we can do much better.
And just try to tilt your monitor like a real notpad, or even better, just pick up the whole monitor/input device and put it on your lap or walk with it down the hall.
Word processors are also still are bounded to a single machines.
> > EVERYTHING. They are frankly just so damn stupid it is fustrating. > > > > Novell and IBM can wrap server side services to desktop applicaitons in a > > truly secure and light way in ways MS could NEVER duplicate without ripping > > up their entire foundation and starting from scratch. What are they waiting > > for. They're years too late and a billion dollars short. > > > > They are waiting for a true business case with realizable roi.
Bullshit. They aren't investing a nickle into the front end. They want to sell only big iron. They have NO desire to complete, and frankly wouldn't know how to.
> > btw, I'm not surprised that Lindows went belly up. They didn't position > themselves as better. They positioned themselves as cheaper. > > How about this - Linux is a lot more convenient. It comes all inclusive! > > > > > > > > So Linux on the desktop success depends upon the success of Flash on > > > Linux? Please!!! That's just eye candy. > > > > > > > Why isn't Thea being pushed? Who is marking it? > > Better yet, why are we stuffing X11 functionality into the damn web browser? > > > > For available anywhere apps. But ultimately for recurring revenue. > >
Because they don't have X11. They don't even UNDERSTAND X11. When I see remote icons bolted to the desktop which are actually widgets running on a remote blade server running across the city and only displayed on your local X11 server and which popping up remote running applications through a VPN connection using your local X11 window manager of choice, that interfaces with a touch screen and can take basic voice commands then I'll KNOW that they are finally getting it. Integrate a Telephony application, voice recording, journalling logs, biometeric identification, accounting and budgeting package, a simple alarm clock...all running from on the server side and you will BURY microsoft.
People buy crap because they don't have a clue about what is possible. They think the IPOD is a revolution.
Ruben
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