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DATE | 2008-05-18 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Choice of ISP
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> fiber did Verizon "rip out"?
All of New York City
> Where was it?
In every backyard and new construction in Manhattan including all the buildings of the 1980's Koch building boom, on through to about 1996 when they ripped it out for copper DSL.
> When did they do so? Got any third party references?
I lived this, you'll have to do your own research. Wether you believe it or not is of no real interest to me.
> In particular, > I'm interested in large installations. Not, a > few small test installations that they decided not to continue to > support.
The city of New York is not a small test.
> BTW, I'm quite aware of Verizon's desire to > control their own hardware for their own profit. I just don't believe > they installed major amounts of fiber and then > ripped it out. At worst, they may have turned it off... >
Worse than that, there is enough dead fiber in the North East allow to wire most the world, and its mostly dark. > Bill Bogstad
Ruben
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