MESSAGE
| DATE | 2008-04-11 |
| FROM | Mark Simko
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: hello
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loose > lews or loos
lose > lewz or Lou's or looz
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 19:11 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:48:49PM -0400, Mark Simko wrote:
> > I don't think that with that tiny keyboard on his eeepc that the
> > spelling is ever going to get any better. Ever!
> >
> > This is just one of those quirks that we're going to have to accept
> > about Ruben, no matter how annoying.
> >
> > Personally, it just irks me to the core when someone uses 'loose' in
> > place of 'lose', but rightly or wrongly, tech geeks are known for
> > atrociously poor spelling and grammar.
> >
>
>
> Why should a word pronounced L OO S
>
> Be spelled LOSE
>
> That spells L Long O S - which sounds more like loss.
>
> I hate that damn word.
>
> Ruben
>
> >
> > On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 13:14 -0400, ronny abraham wrote:
> > > Two words, SPELL CHECK.
> > >
> > > -ron
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 12:48 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > Ah - here you are in the spam filter.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:10:11PM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> > > > > Ruben,
> > > > >
> > > > > I admire your passion and knowledge of the subject, but the expression
> > > > > is misdirected. I am not asking you to sign anything. i am not accusing you
> > > > > of anything. I merely asked you about where we go from here.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is not Bassam who is to blame if you want to end our progress up to this
> > > > > point. Bassam is a musician who has had bad experiences, he has every right
> > > > > to be nervous. This is his work, and we all have to bend to our colleagues
> > > > > sometimes, even if they are wrong or paranoid or whatever the case may be.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure what issues Bassam has had previously but it is axiomatic
> > > > on my part that I'm not going to sign anything which restricts my
> > > > abilty to make works available and to education, especially in light
> > > > of the extremely debilitary way copyright law is currently. And I need
> > > > open and free cooperation to help promote something, which is so time
> > > > consuming I can't even begin to express it.
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe that it i shwed business to close off the distribution
> > > > and promotion of works, especially when trying to develop schools, especially
> > > > in a small narrow cultural segment, especially when the word 'Arabic' itself
> > > > creates visereral negitive emotional reactions by Americans which additionally
> > > > needs to be hopped over.
> > > >
> > > > When I suggested he was a perfectionist, it was actually a hope on my part
> > > > that he was artistically motivated, and not legally motivated. Artistically
> > > > motivated I can eventually work with because I'm comited to helping people
> > > > with worthwhile contributions to make find ways to promote their contributions
> > > > to society. But a legal and "business" motivation is a black hole contrary
> > > > to my most basic efforts (and your basic efforts as well).
> > > >
> > > > This line of thinking is a trap. If you beat people over the head wit legal
> > > > restrictions then either they'll just ignor the law anyway and perform
> > > > copyright violations, or they'll just ignor you and forget about you
> > > > because nobody outside of a few lawyers wants to be bothered with
> > > > threats to be sued.
> > > >
> > > > Take some time out and lookup vitalbooks and Ruben Safir, and see the
> > > > Creative Commons by Lawrence Lessig, which I don't entirely agree with
> > > > but is a good starting point.
> > > >
> > > > Promoting creative work which are singlerly controlled by a single
> > > > entitey lock stock and barrel is something I don't want to promote.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I personally trusted you, that's why I got you involved. But I don't promise
> > > > > every creative person I am associated with also has a keen business sense
> > > > > and knowledge of modern-day technology.
> > > >
> > > > Of course. I've been at this now for 8 years. I think I'm aware of both
> > > > the terrain. I feel like a tape recorder sometimes.
> > > >
> > > > But know whati'm saying
> > > >
> > > > We intimately share our civilization. You and I, and 10 billion
> > > > other people who yearn for freedom, knowedge, and the ability to participate
> > > > and share. We can work together to turn ignorance and suffering into
> > > > education and light, or we can chase false pretenses which hurt us all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's start over and try to move forward.
> > > >
> > > > Your a very smart girl, April. Talented beyound I think even your fully aware,
> > > > and have a huge future in store for yourself.
> > > >
> > > > You know what you have to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > April
> > > >
> > > > Ruben
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 01:05:42PM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Rubin,
> > > > > > > I'm not sure I understood your email fully. So where are you
> > > > > > > posting/archiving the video? We are proceeding forward as usual I
> > > > > > assume..
> > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > April
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a political organization called New Yorkers for Fair Use. It
> > > > > > fights
> > > > > > against restrictive copyright laws. I wouldn't sign any copyright
> > > > > > contracts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe that restrictive copyrights, especially in the digital arena,
> > > > > > obstructs
> > > > > > education, economic development, impedes cultural exchange, and endangers
> > > > > > creatitivy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Furthermore, I talked at length to your cameraman. He said that Basaam
> > > > > > was very slow
> > > > > > in signing even the consent for an interview. That is just bizzare
> > > > > > because the boy,
> > > > > > I forgot his name, doesn't need a consent for an interview in the first
> > > > > > place.
> > > > > > No one can tell him what he can and can not write. This really gets
> > > > > > twisted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regardless, what your trying to accomplish, cultural exchange and
> > > > > > education is
> > > > > > absolutely inconsistant with the position Basaam has taken, and frankly,
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > offended by sentence "We are legally bound, and there are repercussions".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have about a dozen lawyers who work with NY Fair Use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are NOT legally bound and I certainly wouldn't get involved with
> > > > > > any contractial agreements which would make me legally bound.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will put the tape into our archive. We have no reasonable fair use
> > > > > > purpose for any of it's content at the moment, but it is footage of
> > > > > > authentic middle eastern classical music and it might come in handy
> > > > > > for something important some day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meanwhile, the spirit of this is not conduscive to your mission. It's
> > > > > > completely
> > > > > > contrary to mine. You might not relize that yet, but your a bright women,
> > > > > > and eventually you'll figure that out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keep in mind, the entire genera of Jazz would not have developed if faced
> > > > > > with this kind of legal bluster.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
> > > > > > society."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not a sharecropper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ruben
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 12:42:14AM -0400, April Centrone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Rubin,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for attending last Thursday. Did you set up the
> > > > > > video?
> > > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > > very important that it is not broadcasted, and not just because we
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > perfectionists. :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We are legally bound, and there are repercussions if it's let out
> > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > being approved and signed off by contract. This private area on your
> > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > > sounds satisfactory. The camera man we had we personally hired. Even
> > > > > > > > > allowed by invitation to tape, he still had to sign a contract
> > > > > > ensuring
> > > > > > > > > there would be no private distribution.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah - I'm not going to do that because I find that to be imoral
> > > > > > > > in principle. I spoke to the kid on the subway hope and he made
> > > > > > > > clear that its too difficult to get anything done with regard to
> > > > > > > > promotion and education with the ensemble and/or school. I would
> > > > > > > > never ever sign such a contract.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't have time to educate anyone right now on the damage such
> > > > > > > > use of copyright poses to public education, not to mention the
> > > > > > > > damage it does to promotion of individual artists and schools,
> > > > > > > > but I'm going to back off this project for other artists and
> > > > > > > > educational programs that permit collaberation and education.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm cc'ing Michael on this. We'll likely to just privately archive
> > > > > > > > the tape since I hate to destroy information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good luck April. Your very very talented.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ruben
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world -
> > > > > > RI
> > > > > > > > Safir 1998
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI
> > > > > > > > Safir 2002
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our
> > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > society."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
> > > > > > > > damned.<
> > > > > > > > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I
> > > > > > guess
> > > > > > > > you missed that one."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
> > > > > > Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI
> > > > > > Safir 1998
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI
> > > > > > Safir 2002
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
> > > > > > our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
> > > > > > society."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
> > > > > > damned.<
> > > > > > You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have
> > > > > > been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess
> > > > > > you missed that one."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (c) Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > April Centrone
> > > > > www.myspace.com/aprilsoprano321
> > > > > april.centrone-at-gmail.com
> > > > > 732-895-5357
> > > >
> > >
>
> --
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>
> © Copyright for the Digital Millennium
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