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| DATE | 2007-10-16 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Freedom-IT Preliminary Call for Papers
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:11:21AM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Richard, your not raising any broad and fundemental questions
> here. This is simple stuff and lets not complicate it. The
> question is how can we asure adequate attention to the political
> issues that involve Free Software. This consideration began with
> the selection of topic. When the topic was selected for
> multimedia and free software, it inherently addresses most key
> political issues.
>
> In my experience, that is not the case as a general rule.
> Some specific planning is needed to make it true.
>
> There is more than one way to do it, and I am not stubbornly attached
> to the idea I proposed. But I would like people to seriously consider
> this idea, rather than reject it with name-calling.
>
I have little patients these days for name calling. Its far too destructive.
> > Here's an idea. The call for papers could say that ask for each paper
> > should explicitly relate the technical subject matter to the goal of
> > freedom for all computer user. In other words, the authors should not
> > only explain a technique or some software, but also show that the
> > technique or software is free, that it can be used in a free
> > environment, and how its existence is a contribution to the Free
> > World.
>
> This is an idea worthy more thought and consideration, but having
> every presenter make oaths of allegence and to sing some version
> of the International...
>
> is not what my proposal is about. It calls for thought and analysis,
> not repetition.
>
> What is the point of having me in this discussion
> if you don't at least seriously consider what I say?
Don't give that serious thought. I've already had about 4 hours of phone calls
and several emails considering this on both coasts discussing your specific
email and we're fleshing out a means to bring this to light. But I'll be
amazed how anyone can do a serious presentation on Free Software uses of
multimedia and twist it up. This is rubber hitting road. You can't DO free
software for multimedia without freeing the media. If your reading an
antagonism or impatients in my post your just misinterpreting my normal
Brooklyn disposition.
Keep in mind, however, that these papers, if we get good ones, are already
written, awaiting a place to presented and published. I very strongly
feel that the body of work, especially as presentations are vetted by our
standing commitee which would include you, would not be able to stand on
their own as examples of Free Software making Free media. We are not
going to allow someone to present a DRM encrypted peice of hardware just
because it has "Linux" inside.
Ruben
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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