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DATE 2007-03-09
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why make a real library...
Microsoft: Google massively violates copyrights By Preston Gralla on Fri,
03/09/2007 - 3:50pm

Google has one more enemy in its plan to scan countless thousands
of books without authors' consent --- Microsoft. A top Microsoft
lawyer says that Google "systematically violates copyright" in its
book-scanning scheme.

According to the Associated Press, Thomas C. Rubin, an associate general
counsel at Microsoft gave a speech before the Association of American
Publishers in New York in which he said that Google's book-scanning
project violates copyright law, and cuts into the profits of both
authors and publishers. Google has plans to scan books and making them
searchable online, without asking permission from authors or publishers.

"Companies that create no content of their own, and make money solely
on the backs of other people's content, are raking in billions through
advertising revenue," he said, referring to Google.

Rubin had a receptive audience. The Association of American Publishers
and the Authors Guild are both suing Google for copyright violations
because of the search giant's book-scanning scheme.

Microsoft has its own plan for scanning books and making them available
online. But Microsoft only scans books that are out of copyright,
or books that publishers specifically let Microsoft scan.

Google, by contrast, scans in copyrighted books without author or
publisher permission.

Ironically, Google has subpoenaed Microsoft in relation to the
publishers' suit against it. But clearly, Microsoft will not be a
friendly witness for Microsoft.

Microsoft has it right. Google is flat-out wrong in making these books
available without permission of the copyright holders. Oddly enough,
Google has agreed to take down videos from YouTube that violate copyright
laws. But it doesn't have the same approach to books.

Google rakes in enough money that they don't need to take it out of the
pockets of publishers and writers. It's time for the company to back
off its book-scanning project. Filed under : Government/Regulations |
Networking | Internet Preston Gralla's blog

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  1. 2007-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Nokia N800 Quick Review
  2. 2007-03-01 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Edison - This Weekend
  3. 2007-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Edison - This Weekend
  4. 2007-03-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Job Recruiters
  5. 2007-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Job Recruiters
  6. 2007-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Job Recruiters
  7. 2007-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something worth viewing
  8. 2007-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [legcalendar-at-council.nyc.ny.us: City Council Calendar for Monday, March 5, 2007 - Sunday, March 11, 2007]
  9. 2007-03-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: samba remote denial of service (SUSE-SA:2007:016)]
  10. 2007-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jim-at-well.com: Re: [balug-talk] [fwd] FLOSS Usability IV -- March 9-11, 2007 [Mountain View]]
  11. 2007-03-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: E-Update for the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council (March 5, 2007).]
  12. 2007-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [rebuild-at-twintowersalliance.com: The Twin Towers Alliance -- People United To Rebuild The Twin Towers]
  13. 2007-03-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [josue-at-mayfirst.org: [501techclub-ny] ElderResourceNYC.com needs a Web Manager]
  14. 2007-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad News or Voice over IP
  15. 2007-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad News or Voice over IP
  16. 2007-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why make a real library...
  17. 2007-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Revolution is not be broadcast...
  18. 2007-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] To Google is theft
  19. 2007-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [auto_agent-at-jobcircle.com: JobCircle Weekly Summary of New Jobs]
  20. 2007-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Photo's
  21. 2007-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Freedom-IT and Lake Placid
  22. 2007-03-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Photo's
  23. 2007-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Photo's
  24. 2007-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Photo's
  25. 2007-03-12 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSM newsletter: FSM Newsletter 12th of March 2007
  26. 2007-03-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Lake Placid Photo's
  27. 2007-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Date?
  28. 2007-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [dcrosta-at-sccs.swarthmore.edu: [nylug-talk] Volunteer in NYC]
  29. 2007-03-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Nokia N800 Quick Review
  30. 2007-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: [Discuss] Internet Society of New York Comments on FTC's NN Proceeding]
  31. 2007-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] USBFS
  32. 2007-03-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Ira from NYLUG
  33. 2007-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: router hack article
  34. 2007-03-21 Michael Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement - please RSVP
  35. 2007-03-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] TODAY! NYLUG Wednesday 21 March General Meeting Presents: Ira Hyman
  36. 2007-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Announcement - please RSVP
  37. 2007-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [osbc-at-idg.com: OSBC: Is the Novell-Microsoft deal good for open source]
  38. 2007-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Passover
  39. 2007-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [docs-newsletter-at-ssc.com: SuitWatch - March 21]
  40. 2007-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [events-at-flaggmgmt.com: Major speakers and sponsors for 2007 Linux on Wall Street, April 23, NYC.]
  41. 2007-03-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Passover
  42. 2007-03-27 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FSM newsletter: FSM Newsletter 26th of March 2007
  43. 2007-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More Jobs - market is heating up
  44. 2007-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] And Gigs
  45. 2007-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Job placement - GNU
  46. 2007-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More Jobs
  47. 2007-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More Work avialable
  48. 2007-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Small gig

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