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DATE | 2006-05-23 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [matt@modestolan.com: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The?Linux?Journal]
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Received: from frida.dreamhost.com (frida.dreamhost.com [66.33.206.23]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k4MIaFAQ018293 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:36:17 -0400 Received: from che.dreamhost.com (che.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.23]) by frida.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82BE16D42A; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFE41BB30; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: balug-talk-at-lists.balug.org Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.153]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58F21BB85 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 11:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.116] (c-67-181-41-207.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.181.41.207]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060522183609m1300gnkphe>; Mon, 22 May 2006 18:36:09 +0000 From: Matt Thrailkill To: Rick Moen In-Reply-To: <20060522182311.GT14850-at-linuxmafia.com> References: <1148075379.17493.32.camel-at-stat29.mrbrklyn.com> <20060520135142.GA4204-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <1148187208.6373.6.camel-at-stoneburner.xwredwing.net> <20060522171749.GS14850-at-linuxmafia.com> <20060522180836.GX12243-at-zork.net> <20060522182311.GT14850-at-linuxmafia.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:35:25 -0700 Message-Id: <1148322925.6373.24.camel-at-stoneburner.xwredwing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Cc: balug-talk-at-lists.balug.org Subject: Re: [Balug-talk] [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux Journal X-BeenThere: balug-talk-at-lists.balug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: balug-talk-bounces-at-lists.balug.org Errors-To: balug-talk-bounces-at-lists.balug.org Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18287
So you're saying its only marketing, and very few users take that message to heart and use Nvidia's binary drivers and things like that? That most open source users reject binary drivers and binary software?
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 11:23 -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Nick Moffitt (nick-at-zork.net): > > > I wish I could remember who it was that first observed "Open Source > > gives the same answer to every question that Free Software does, except > > 'Why?'" > > I'd say it takes the stance that everyone in our base constituency > _already knows why_ -- that reaching a broad range of others in > _addition_ to ourselves requires a marketing _campaign_ couched in > pragmatic language. OSI's Web site is explicit about this in a number > of places, including http://www.opensource.org/advocacy/faq.php : > > The Open Source Initiative is a marketing program for free software. > It's a pitch for "free software" because it works, not because it's > the only right thing to do. We're selling freedom on its merits. We > realise that many organisations adopt software for technical or > financial reasons rather than for its freedom. Many users learn to > appreciate freedom through their own experience, rather than by being > told about it. > > I fully understand people not wanting to participate in that marketing > campaign. I decline to do so myself -- though, more because I don't > want to waste my time on software advocacy than for any more specific > reason. However, I just wanted to point out that asserting that open > source people don't care about freedom just because it isn't featured in > their targeted marketing campaign is a (blatantly) non-sequitur argument > -- and demonstrably wrong in some obvious cases, such as OSI itself. > > _______________________________________________ > balug-talk mailing list > balug-talk-at-lists.balug.org > http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org > -- Matt Thrailkill
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