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| DATE | 2006-05-22 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mspitzer@gmail.com: Re: [Lisp] Motion: Should worthy projects go unfunded by Google, Lisp-NYC uses last year Google$ to fund one (or more at a fraction of the $4500)]
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 03:10:42 -0400
From: Marc Spitzer
To: Jay Sulzberger
Subject: Re: [Lisp] Motion: Should worthy projects go unfunded by Google,
Lisp-NYC uses last year Google$ to fund one (or more at a fraction of
the $4500)
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On 5/22/06, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
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>On Mon, 22 May 2006, Matt Knox wrote:
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>> I think that google's approach is far from optimal, and that we can
>> probably do a better job with the money than they do. That said, it
>> might be weird if we do something that is a lot like SOC, but pays
>> less. Certainly we would not want to pay more. So as I see it, we
>> should either do exactly what google does, and give the $4500 to one
>> person, in chunks of $500, $2K and $2K, or we should do something
>> radically different like putting up bounties. I think doing $2K for
>> half a summer is too close to SOC, and therefore vulnerable to
>> comparison, whereas something like a bounty system is not.
>>
>> I also agree that SOC functions partly as a summer job replacement,
>> and that splitting things up into smaller bounties makes it not work
>> as such. So if we have a project and a candidate that work as a full
>> SOC quantum, great. If not, we should do the bounty thing..
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>I think we should avoid bounties of less than the Google SOC amount.
We have $4500 and google pays $5000, so how do we/fund do this?
Also please keep in mind that we are not setup to handle money.
And the bounty, including small ones, allows us to get things done,
some of those things may be 80 hr projects that do not merit $5000.
These would still be nice to have though.
>
>Perhaps Lisp NYC should have its own Code Grants. The amount of
>the Lisp NYC Code Grant should be the same as Google SOC Awards,
>and the Lisp NYC Code Grant Projects should advance the cause of
>Better Languages. Anything beyond the first grant would require
>one person to do some organizing so that funds and good projects
>and solid Lispers are brought together. This kind of organizing
>requires time and effort.
Which I do not think we as a group are interested in doing, we have meetings
and then drink beer. And this sometimes streches our resources, so we
sometimes go straight to beer and that is fine. Things like summer of
code, robocup or ilc come along and something may or may not happen.
The ALU may be a better fit for this.
marc
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