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| DATE | 2005-09-11 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Hardhats-members] Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA
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> From: info-at-hits-inc.us
> To: hardhats-members-at-lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Call follow up - VistA for Katrina survivor EHR needs
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:24:01 +0200
>
>
> This could be done easily enough with the right impetus. Bhaskar can
> generate enough thumb-drives with VistA Viva on them to run a laptop,
> and we can negotiate with HP for "blank" laptops with large hard drives
> (about 80GB should do it). The laptops can be configured after they
> are on-site at a pre-determined staging area. While the laps are being
> configured, you train one set of users on GUI ops and another set on
> roll-n-scroll for patient registration.
>
> So what you would need at the staging area:
>
> For lap config: A CP-medium, a generator, the laps, and Bhaskar
>
> For training: Two CP-larges, 40 - 60 pre-configured laps, two
> generators, two servers with a duplicate "beta" system installed, two
> wireless routers and three to four trainers.
>
> Total training time should not exceed three hours, so you are talking in
> about one really long day training approximately 300 people and sending
> them back with the laps under their arms.
>
> On-site at the ops centers you would need a server, generator, and
> satellite transmission array (I think RCA has a good COTS unit) where
> the laps would be "backed up" on a regular basis and the information
> would then be satellite fed to a designated server either at HIS or
> CDC, or where ever the political wind is blowing at the time.
>
> This is do-able so long as we don't try to "over-think" it to death.
>
> Rod Kay
> HITS, Inc.
>
> "Michael D. Weisner" wrote on 09/09/2005, 10:47:40
> PM:
> > What we need is something that I would call "VistA Lite", a product that is
> > much simpler to learn and may be deployed quickly. Can we strip out the
> > medical essentials for emergency & disaster treatment? If we could put this
> > together, it would seem to be a perfect OpenSource project. We should
> > discuss the requirements of the Red Cross emergency teams, since they seem
> > to get there first, most often.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nancy Anthracite"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 4:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Call follow up - VistA for
> > Katrina survivor EHR needs
> >
> >
> > They need power and we would need to be able to set up a network for them.
> > Communications we could probably do without if a team were there to do the
> > setup, training, etc. Power could be just a way to keep the laptops charged
> > and the network working, but it is power or some sort, none the less. This
> > is a great idea that we need to work the bugs out of if we are going to be a
> > help and not a hindrance in this effort.
> >
> > On Friday 09 September 2005 02:25 pm, Chris Richardson wrote:
> > Bhaskar;
> >
> > To further this effort, I called Rick Marshall and discussed it briefly
> > with him. The concern was for the feelings of the CMMS folks (and rightly
> > so). There was also concern about the logistics of getting the system set
> > up and running. How would we train the folks to use the tool. The install
> > at present is not totally turn-key and there is significant setup for the
> > healthcare providers to get established in the system.
> >
> > I also spoke with Dr. Nancy Anthracite and she indicated that the learning
> > curve was too steep for these folks who are already pretty burned out.
> > Personnel would have to be sent in to train, setup, and trouble-shoot the
> > systems. She recommended that if there was a location which had power and
> > communications and expressed a desire to have the help, that this would be
> > the only way thatthis thing could work. I recommended that we consider
> > Magnolia, AR. I know someone down there who is involved in the recovery
> > effort. It is a community of about 10,000 with an evacuee population of
> > about 500. Perhaps we need to contact the Red Cross for other suggestions
> > for a location we could help with. There would be a need for individuals to
> > go to these locations to help install and trouble-shoot the situation and do
> > some training. We can also be on the look-out for VA-trained folks from the
> > New Orleans area. There are a lot of VA employees who are still unaccounted
> > for in the storm area.
> >
> > I see that there are some other EMR packages going into the areas down
> > there and it would be interesting to see how they fare. We could sit on the
> > side-line and be spectators or we could be participants. I would prefer we
> > got involved.
> >
> > From Mike Ginsburg's email of this date.
> >
> > "Looks like an EHR effort is already underway!
> >
> > From Computerworld:
> >
> > Allscripts, Medem Offer Free E-health Records To Katrina Evacuees
> > http://www.computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,104503,00.html?nlid=AM "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "K.S. Bhaskar"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:58 AM
> > Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Call follow up - VistA for
> > Katrina survivor EHR needs
> >
> > > At the VistA Community call today, we discussed the potential benefits
> > > of a widely available pre-configured VistA system for the electronic
> > > medical records of a dispersed and likely mobile community of survivors
> > > putting their lives back on track. It was suggested that the beta
> > > version of VistA Office EHR could fit the bill, and my action item was
> > > to contact Joseph Dal Molin and Maury Pepper of WorldVistA as a conduit
> > > to CMS to seek approval for such a release of the beta software.
> > >
> > > I left voice mail for Joseph and spoke with Maury. Maury is not averse
> > > to approaching CMS for permission, but expressed some concerns about the
> > > plan. Maury's concern is that making available a number of laptops/PCs
> > > with a pre-configured VistA, whether it is a beta of VOE or another
> > > VistA (e.g., Hui OpenVistA) loaded on them would not necessarily be
> > > useful without the people trained to use the systems. It would be one
> > > thing for a group of ex-VA employees, for example, going around with
> > > these laptops, but without appropriate training, VistA may not be useful
> > > in general.
> > >
> > > I promised him that I would start a discussion thread, so that people on
> > > the call and in the community could respond to this concern. He
> > > (correctly, in my opinion) said that we were more likely to get a
> > > receptive ear from CMS if there was a coherent plan of action.
> > >
> > > Maury, if I have mischaracterized our discussion in any way, please
> > > speak up. Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > -- Bhaskar
> > >
> > >
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