Thu Nov 21 23:44:18 2024
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2005-07-01

HANGOUT

2024-11-21 | 2024-10-21 | 2024-09-21 | 2024-08-21 | 2024-07-21 | 2024-06-21 | 2024-05-21 | 2024-04-21 | 2024-03-21 | 2024-02-21 | 2024-01-21 | 2023-12-21 | 2023-11-21 | 2023-10-21 | 2023-09-21 | 2023-08-21 | 2023-07-21 | 2023-06-21 | 2023-05-21 | 2023-04-21 | 2023-03-21 | 2023-02-21 | 2023-01-21 | 2022-12-21 | 2022-11-21 | 2022-10-21 | 2022-09-21 | 2022-08-21 | 2022-07-21 | 2022-06-21 | 2022-05-21 | 2022-04-21 | 2022-03-21 | 2022-02-21 | 2022-01-21 | 2021-12-21 | 2021-11-21 | 2021-10-21 | 2021-09-21 | 2021-08-21 | 2021-07-21 | 2021-06-21 | 2021-05-21 | 2021-04-21 | 2021-03-21 | 2021-02-21 | 2021-01-21 | 2020-12-21 | 2020-11-21 | 2020-10-21 | 2020-09-21 | 2020-08-21 | 2020-07-21 | 2020-06-21 | 2020-05-21 | 2020-04-21 | 2020-03-21 | 2020-02-21 | 2020-01-21 | 2019-12-21 | 2019-11-21 | 2019-10-21 | 2019-09-21 | 2019-08-21 | 2019-07-21 | 2019-06-21 | 2019-05-21 | 2019-04-21 | 2019-03-21 | 2019-02-21 | 2019-01-21 | 2018-12-21 | 2018-11-21 | 2018-10-21 | 2018-09-21 | 2018-08-21 | 2018-07-21 | 2018-06-21 | 2018-05-21 | 2018-04-21 | 2018-03-21 | 2018-02-21 | 2018-01-21 | 2017-12-21 | 2017-11-21 | 2017-10-21 | 2017-09-21 | 2017-08-21 | 2017-07-21 | 2017-06-21 | 2017-05-21 | 2017-04-21 | 2017-03-21 | 2017-02-21 | 2017-01-21 | 2016-12-21 | 2016-11-21 | 2016-10-21 | 2016-09-21 | 2016-08-21 | 2016-07-21 | 2016-06-21 | 2016-05-21 | 2016-04-21 | 2016-03-21 | 2016-02-21 | 2016-01-21 | 2015-12-21 | 2015-11-21 | 2015-10-21 | 2015-09-21 | 2015-08-21 | 2015-07-21 | 2015-06-21 | 2015-05-21 | 2015-04-21 | 2015-03-21 | 2015-02-21 | 2015-01-21 | 2014-12-21 | 2014-11-21 | 2014-10-21 | 2014-09-21 | 2014-08-21 | 2014-07-21 | 2014-06-21 | 2014-05-21 | 2014-04-21 | 2014-03-21 | 2014-02-21 | 2014-01-21 | 2013-12-21 | 2013-11-21 | 2013-10-21 | 2013-09-21 | 2013-08-21 | 2013-07-21 | 2013-06-21 | 2013-05-21 | 2013-04-21 | 2013-03-21 | 2013-02-21 | 2013-01-21 | 2012-12-21 | 2012-11-21 | 2012-10-21 | 2012-09-21 | 2012-08-21 | 2012-07-21 | 2012-06-21 | 2012-05-21 | 2012-04-21 | 2012-03-21 | 2012-02-21 | 2012-01-21 | 2011-12-21 | 2011-11-21 | 2011-10-21 | 2011-09-21 | 2011-08-21 | 2011-07-21 | 2011-06-21 | 2011-05-21 | 2011-04-21 | 2011-03-21 | 2011-02-21 | 2011-01-21 | 2010-12-21 | 2010-11-21 | 2010-10-21 | 2010-09-21 | 2010-08-21 | 2010-07-21 | 2010-06-21 | 2010-05-21 | 2010-04-21 | 2010-03-21 | 2010-02-21 | 2010-01-21 | 2009-12-21 | 2009-11-21 | 2009-10-21 | 2009-09-21 | 2009-08-21 | 2009-07-21 | 2009-06-21 | 2009-05-21 | 2009-04-21 | 2009-03-21 | 2009-02-21 | 2009-01-21 | 2008-12-21 | 2008-11-21 | 2008-10-21 | 2008-09-21 | 2008-08-21 | 2008-07-21 | 2008-06-21 | 2008-05-21 | 2008-04-21 | 2008-03-21 | 2008-02-21 | 2008-01-21 | 2007-12-21 | 2007-11-21 | 2007-10-21 | 2007-09-21 | 2007-08-21 | 2007-07-21 | 2007-06-21 | 2007-05-21 | 2007-04-21 | 2007-03-21 | 2007-02-21 | 2007-01-21 | 2006-12-21 | 2006-11-21 | 2006-10-21 | 2006-09-21 | 2006-08-21 | 2006-07-21 | 2006-06-21 | 2006-05-21 | 2006-04-21 | 2006-03-21 | 2006-02-21 | 2006-01-21 | 2005-12-21 | 2005-11-21 | 2005-10-21 | 2005-09-21 | 2005-08-21 | 2005-07-21 | 2005-06-21 | 2005-05-21 | 2005-04-21 | 2005-03-21 | 2005-02-21 | 2005-01-21 | 2004-12-21 | 2004-11-21 | 2004-10-21 | 2004-09-21 | 2004-08-21 | 2004-07-21 | 2004-06-21 | 2004-05-21 | 2004-04-21 | 2004-03-21 | 2004-02-21 | 2004-01-21 | 2003-12-21 | 2003-11-21 | 2003-10-21 | 2003-09-21 | 2003-08-21 | 2003-07-21 | 2003-06-21 | 2003-05-21 | 2003-04-21 | 2003-03-21 | 2003-02-21 | 2003-01-21 | 2002-12-21 | 2002-11-21 | 2002-10-21 | 2002-09-21 | 2002-08-21 | 2002-07-21 | 2002-06-21 | 2002-05-21 | 2002-04-21 | 2002-03-21 | 2002-02-21 | 2002-01-21 | 2001-12-21 | 2001-11-21 | 2001-10-21 | 2001-09-21 | 2001-08-21 | 2001-07-21 | 2001-06-21 | 2001-05-21 | 2001-04-21 | 2001-03-21 | 2001-02-21 | 2001-01-21 | 2000-12-21 | 2000-11-21 | 2000-10-21 | 2000-09-21 | 2000-08-21 | 2000-07-21 | 2000-06-21 | 2000-05-21 | 2000-04-21 | 2000-03-21 | 2000-02-21 | 2000-01-21 | 1999-12-21

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2005-07-01
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Unusual Copyright Article from the NY Times
July 2, 2005
Big Media's Power Plays
DAN MITCHELL

THE legal battles over the future of copyright in the digital age are
often cast as innovation versus the status quo, and in many ways, that's
true. MGM v. Grokster is a case in point. MGM's lawsuit lives on, thanks
to the Supreme Court, which decided this week to toss out summary
judgments in favor of the file-sharing companies Grokster and StreamCast
Networks, allowing the lawsuit to proceed.

Whether in victory or in defeat, opponents of big media often come to
the same conclusion: the inexorable march of technological innovation
will severely erode the power of giant media companies. "In the end,"
Wired News (wired.com) said in an editorial, "the business model in the
entertainment industry is going to change, and these companies can
either find a way to insert themselves into the new order, or risk
finding themselves frozen out forever."

But media companies seem less interested in inserting themselves into
someone else's new order than they are in creating and controlling their
own. Most media executives by now realize that their methods will have
to change. Their maneuvers - suing file-sharing networks or inserting
"broadcast flags," which restrict copying and otherwise limit what media
consumers can do with video content - aren't about trying to protect
hoary business models; they're about keeping the wolves at bay.

"I think that the major media companies are trying to cement their
control of media distribution and want to cut off competition in lots of
forms," Wendy Seltzer, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation
who argued the case for the Grokster side, said in an interview with Mad
Penguin (madpenguin.org). "So while they say that they are aiming to cut
off piracy of their works, I think it's no accident that they are also
striking out against technologies that can be used by anyone to create
competing cultural products."

The Science Sans the Dismal Mark A. Thoma, a University of Oregon
associate professor of economics, got some attention in the blogosphere
last week on his blog Economist's View
(economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview). In it, he took on Robert J.
Samuelson, a political columnist for The Washington Post, who wrote a
column, "Time to Toss the Textbooks," which seemed to argue that because
macroeconomics is a huge, complex, amorphous area of study that is
always subject to unpredictable variables, its basic principles are
meaningless, and it's just too difficult to understand.

The columns assertions included: "Economics textbooks once described the
U.S. economy as mainly self-contained Globalization has shattered this
model ... More industries face foreign competition or depend on foreign
markets ... Savings and investment have also gone global ... All this
alters the U.S. economy."

Nonsense, Mr. Thoma wrote: "I hate to be the one to break it to him, but
we've been adding terms like net exports to our models for a long time.
Even principles books now routinely cover this, something that wasn't
true 20 or more years ago. I'd guess that's somewhere around the age of
the textbook he references when he writes his columns. If I thought it
would help, I'd send him a new one."

Ad Hominem The technology guru and journalist Doc Searls took a look at
online advertising in a recent entry on his new blog, IT Garage
(itgarage.com). Almost nobody thinks blocking obnoxious pop-up ads is a
bad thing. But what about software that blocks regular banner ads - the
lifeblood of free online media? Mr. Searls recognizes the problematic
nature of this option, but in the end he favors it. "This here is my
browser and I can customize it any way I please," he wrote. The entry
led to a spirited, wide-ranging discussion among his readers about the
future of advertising in the digital age.

Falling Into Bad Patterns The gambling blog Die is Cast (dieiscast.com)
features a gallery of casino carpet patterns from gambling dens around
the country. "No one demanded it, but I felt the need for it," wrote the
blogger, David G. Schwartz. Those who opted for the $3.95 prime rib
special at the Lucky Duck are advised to wait an hour before viewing.
DAN MITCHELL

Complete links are at nytimes.com/business. E-mail:
whatsonline-at-nytimes.com.



  1. 2005-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Microsoft Getting Closer to the Fire
  2. 2005-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Following Bill Gates' Linux Attack Money
  3. 2005-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bulletin: Microsoft to pay IBM $775M in antitrust settlement
  4. 2005-07-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Hardhats-members] Re: [os-wg] FOSS Grant opportunity watch.]
  5. 2005-07-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Unusual Copyright Article from the NY Times
  6. 2005-07-02 From: "MICHAEL L. RICHARDSON" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ubuntu linux
  7. 2005-07-02 From: "J.E. Cripps" <cycmn-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] new inservices
  8. 2005-07-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair Elections: Who the heck are these guys!?
  9. 2005-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Trip Up State for Barbeque and Beer
  10. 2005-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: JobCircle Weekly Summary of New Jobs]
  11. 2005-07-30 From: "MICHAEL L. RICHARDSON" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More mac help
  12. 2005-07-30 From: "MICHAEL L. RICHARDSON" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mac help
  13. 2005-07-30 From: "MICHAEL L. RICHARDSON" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mac help
  14. 2005-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] HAPPY SYSADMIN APPRECIATION DAY!
  15. 2005-07-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: MySQL Newsletter: July 2005]
  16. 2005-07-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LUI Newsletter: July 2005
  17. 2005-07-26 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Board Meeting
  18. 2005-07-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn101-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Board Meeting
  19. 2005-07-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why Linux isn't ready for desktops (Read it
  20. 2005-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn101-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why Linux isn't ready for desktops (Read it and Laugh)
  21. 2005-07-23 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google groups now Beta in most sites - any thoughts?
  22. 2005-07-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] July Inservice
  23. 2005-07-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Summer Retreat
  24. 2005-07-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Fwd: Fw: A SERIOUS THREAT]
  25. 2005-07-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: O'Reilly Open Source Conference_August 1-5_Portland, Oregon]
  26. 2005-07-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why Linux isn't ready for desktops (Read it
  27. 2005-07-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why Linux isn't ready for desktops (Read it
  28. 2005-07-21 From: "Paul Marino" <pmarino-at-wagweb.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Why Linux isn't ready for desktops (Read it and Laugh)

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!